bureaucrat#3
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Knock out a few more Asian, European, and South/Central American countries and the US might win its first World Cup.
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I have a friend who was an accountant for the Detroit Pistons years ago and when they won the championship in 2004, Bill Davidson (the owner at the time) made sure EVERYBODY got a championship ring. My buddy let me wear his ring around the office for a while (back in 2008 or 2009?). Are you saying that I was not in fact a member of the 2004 NBA champion Detroit Pistons?
FWIW, my friend's ring is about the size of a very small high school class ring and probably cost about the same. He showed me a picture of his ring next to one of the players rings and his is comically small and boring compared to the ones the players and coaches got.
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In the lobby of Coca Cola World there’s a lit up globe with the FIFA teams named. Both my kids asked me if I thought the World Cup was going to happen with so many countries now on the no visa list. I told them I didn’t know but I expect many of the matches slated to be played in the U.S. will move to Canada and Mexico.
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I overheard some folks praising the Ken Burns doc on the Revolution and 1776, and one person made a very astute observation. There is “history” that we have been told, then there is the “truth” that is not just one persons story, but a collection of actual events that are intertwined.
It really has me wondering about the history that we were told in school, and how much of it is true and how much they didn’t tell us. I am a massive fan of Ben Franklin, but I also know that he had some significant issues too, especially when it came to alcohol and women.
What about you. When it comes to politics how do you differentiate between history and the truth?
It really has me wondering about the history that we were told in school, and how much of it is true and how much they didn’t tell us. I am a massive fan of Ben Franklin, but I also know that he had some significant issues too, especially when it came to alcohol and women.
What about you. When it comes to politics how do you differentiate between history and the truth?
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I'm from Texas. Our history is one of the most massively revisionist you'll find built around the Texas myth, but there are a number of incomplete elements to its history as an early nation-building exercise rooted in the Monroe Doctrine with an eye towards increasing southern power by other states. Basically, the U.S. saw benefit to Mexico gaining its independence and then subsequently Texas, allowing it to exert influence. Southern states particularly took advantage, with slavery a practice in portions of Texas (but not all). There's even an argument that the Confederacy neglecting Texas contributed substantially to its loss, as Texas didn't really form a strong functional central state despite resources, and Texas having an interesting conflict with comfort with slavery but a really, REALLY complex relationship with the Native Americans when it came to displacement.
There's a lot of folks actively working on Tejano history, which is really the story of various borders crossing people instead of people crossing borders. I even have friends that are descended from original Texicans (history traced to being in current Texas through the Spain-to-Mexico-to-Texas-to-US transition over a 35 year period.
There's a lot of folks actively working on Tejano history, which is really the story of various borders crossing people instead of people crossing borders. I even have friends that are descended from original Texicans (history traced to being in current Texas through the Spain-to-Mexico-to-Texas-to-US transition over a 35 year period.
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For a period while slavery was still legal in Texas, (the republic), an American Indian came into a town with a young slave he legally owned. She looked white. He had his papers in order. He was arrested and the girl taken from him. I have a book somewhere about that story. The story is of his trial.
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I'm sure by now everyone has heard that Trump sent a whiny email to the leader of Norway. And it seems to point powerfully towards a serious cognitive decline. Or some kind of mental deficiency. One can't make this shit up so here verbatim is what the email said.
Where to even begin with this? Evidently, he believes the government of Norway (as opposed to the Nobel foundation) awards Nobel prizes. That's bad enough, but the whole 3 year-old temper tantrum in front of the entire world defies belief! - if I can't have a Nobel Peace Prize for stopping 8 imaginary wars, than I just might have to...invade Greenland! You know, I don't want that stupid Nobel prize anyways. They give it out to losers! So you'll WISH you'd given it to me when I decide to invade YOUR country!!! You'll all be sorry then! Wahhhhh! How the eff did this brain damaged moron EVER get elected President? Who thought giving this nearly 80 year old spoiled crybaby the nuclear launch codes was a good idea? Would he really be willing to break apart NATO to keep public attention away from the (only 1% released) Epstein files?
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Where to even begin with this? Evidently, he believes the government of Norway (as opposed to the Nobel foundation) awards Nobel prizes. That's bad enough, but the whole 3 year-old temper tantrum in front of the entire world defies belief! - if I can't have a Nobel Peace Prize for stopping 8 imaginary wars, than I just might have to...invade Greenland! You know, I don't want that stupid Nobel prize anyways. They give it out to losers! So you'll WISH you'd given it to me when I decide to invade YOUR country!!! You'll all be sorry then! Wahhhhh! How the eff did this brain damaged moron EVER get elected President? Who thought giving this nearly 80 year old spoiled crybaby the nuclear launch codes was a good idea? Would he really be willing to break apart NATO to keep public attention away from the (only 1% released) Epstein files?
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Well, between some minor issues with Biden at the end and pretty much everything with Trumpendejo, one should expect bipartisan support for a constitutional amendment prohibiting presidential and congressional candidates from being eligible if over the age of 65 on election day. We've got a minimum age, and it is crystal clear now we need a maximum.
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I think as you get older and study history more, you should get depth, dimension, detail, and context. People are people. They are products of their time. They err. I believe you can still admire people for what they did even when they have flaws, sometimes serious ones. When we teach elementary school kids about Franklin it's ok to talk about him as a founding father, statesman, inventor, and swell guy. In middle school you may add in context that he spent time in France as an ambassador trying to gain support for America's cause. In high school and college you can introduce that he was a slave owner, but later became and abolitionist. Or maybe you talk about how his puritanical roots and growing enlightenment affected historical documents.
We can't agree on what happened yesterday, so I doubt we'll ever agree on all parts of history and what's true. The best we can do is research, listen to experts, and make judgements based on that and why a particular event or person is important.
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The answer is obviously "yes." No question. Maybe somebody can stop him, (Joint Chiefs? EU threatening to dump US bonds?) but left to his own devices with only his Rosencrantz & Guildenstern advisors, absolutely no question he would.
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I've listened to most if not all the audiobooks by Bart Ehrman on the history of Jesus and early Christianity, and the inadvertent role scribes have had in fueling debates regarding biblical canon over the centuries is fascinating to me. Until I listened to those books, I never gave much thought about how scribes are error-prone, which, notably, helps shape what gets passed down as history. Tangentally, Bart's narratives on the book of Revelations was, uh, revelatory because he made a key point that its contents were likely allegorical and not meant to be literal, thus pointing at human cognition as another potential imperfect component contributing to our understanding of history.