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NEVERENDING ♾️ The NEVERENDING Political Discussion Thread

Planit said:
Are we killing drug smugglers in boats, then pardoning their bosses?

Is that the new policy/executive order?
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It is a very anti-marxist approach though - kill the laborers that created the value for the person bribing for requesting a pardon.
 
I think Pew's News Media Tracker tool is fascinating.


www.pewresearch.org

News Media Tracker

Pew Research Center’s News Media Tracker shows data on Americans’ awareness of, use of and trust in 30 major news sources to map out part of the U.S. media ecosystem.
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On the one hand, I'm glad he didn't tell us he was declaring war on Venezuela.
On the other hand, I wish he told us he was declaring war on Venezuela.

TL/dr: That was no Gettysburg Address.
 
Unfortunately, his 18-minute dribble is going to turn into 18 hours of over analysis to tell us nothing new - just like what he said.
 
build a ballroom as a memorial to him
rename 2 cultural institutions as memorials to him
name a future battleship fleet as a memorial to him


ya know, it's amazing he wants his name on everything except in his buddy's records & emails
 
Planit said:
build a ballroom as a memorial to him
rename 2 cultural institutions as memorials to him
name a future battleship fleet as a memorial to him


ya know, it's amazing he wants his name on everything except in his buddy's records & emails
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Prediction... the next president of a different party will wipe his name off anything federally related. Personally, I am ok with that.
 
MD Planner said:
Or just die.


Oops. Did I say that out loud?
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They still need to do something amazing if they want their name on things. Think of how many dead presidents out there do not have their name on things because they didn't do anything amazing. They might have been a good president, but just didn't do anything. Winning the FIFA Peace Prize is not amazing.
 
DVD said:
The presidents name shouldn't be on anything. Dead presidents I'm okay with. Living ones need to do something amazing first and then die.
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With any luck, he'll be eligible to have his name on stuff soon. It should still be removed.
 
I am not sure how I feel about the situation with Venezuela. I keep going back and forth on it because it appeared that Maduro needed to be removed, but I am not sold on how we went about doing it. I hear people commenting about Muammar Gaddafi, but I am not sure it is the same thing.
 
michaelskis said:
I am not sure how I feel about the situation with Venezuela. I keep going back and forth on it because it appeared that Maduro needed to be removed, but I am not sold on how we went about doing it. I hear people commenting about Muammar Gaddafi, but I am not sure it is the same thing.
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I am not 100% sure, but I believe that even in the Gaddafi case, Congress was aware and had given approval to make a strike - as required under Article 1 Section 8. The best comparable may be the military extradition of Noriega from Panama under Bush I, because Congress did not authorize that maneuver. The problem with that comparable is that it is still considered by most to have been an illegal exercise of the use of military force. I don't know a bunch about this stuff, but this is what I'm hearing if it's helpful at all.
 
Seems that we did what we always do. Remove a bad dude from a foreign country amid a vague take on US law. The world laments our actions out loud, while likely being generally ok with a bad dude being removed and having the USA do this behind closed doors. The corporate overlords that really run the world are happy with higher oil profits, their media divisions happy with people tuning in and clocking online with new ratings driving ad buys. New leader put into a nation with a long transition ahead. The news cycle spins up new distraction.

...so it goes...
 
zman said:
Seems that we did what we always do. Remove a bad dude from a foreign country amid a vague take on US law. The world laments our actions out loud, while likely being generally ok with a bad dude being removed and having the USA do this behind closed doors. The corporate overlords that really run the world are happy with higher oil profits, their media divisions happy with people tuning in and clocking online with new ratings driving ad buys. New leader put into a nation with a long transition ahead. The news cycle spins up new distraction.

...so it goes...
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Geeze... you make it sound like a global aristocracy and not just a US aristocracy.
 
Planit said:
I'm so confused. Didn't he just pardon the jailed former president of Honduras, who's done the exact same drug-trafficking thing?

Wait, never mind. They don't have yuge oil reserves in Honduras.
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It's all about the oil. tRump told oil companies about the invasion, but not congress!?!?!?!?!?!

www.rawstory.com

Trump shocks as he reveals who he first told of attack: 'Can’t tell you how insane'

President Donald Trump is facing renewed calls for impeachment over his unprecedented attack on Venezuela and failure to notify Congress in advance, but while aboard Air Force One Sunday night he made a startling admission about which group he did inform ahead of the operation.Trump admitted...
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A lot like Joseph Conrad's "Nostromo", (...short for Nostro Huomo, our guy...)

All about pillaging by foreigners in a setting much like Venezuela.
 
Wife and I were talking about the Venezuela thing yesterday because one of her patients is from there. The patient said the horrific conditions in the country were what made them leave and for the first time in a while, they are considering returning home.

So, yea... I am not 100% sold on the legality of how we did it, but the more I learn about how he ran the country and the effects it had on the US, the more I think that we are a better world without him running Venezuela.
 
kjel said:
In case you were wondering how quickly HUD is devolving…

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We got funds yesterday, so that was nice. We usually get them around Oct 1, but I guess late is better than nothing. Most of our funding goes to the local food bank and utility assistance. We don't get much. So far its been a warm winter so it probably works out.
 
bureaucrat#3 said:
We got funds yesterday, so that was nice. We usually get them around Oct 1, but I guess late is better than nothing. Most of our funding goes to the local food bank and utility assistance. We don't get much. So far its been a warm winter so it probably works out.
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We got our agreements a few weeks ago too. I am surprised because the AG's office sent them back with a statement that said we would not comply with Executive Orders that violate federal laws and regulations or state laws.

I manage the state's HOME and HTF allocations :)
 
I don't know what agreement the US has with Denmark but they really need to just kick out the US if they can. Trump needs to drop the "we need Greenland" rhetoric. Other countries can backfill or Denmark can increase their military. They are a NATO ally and we do have a military presence.
 
SlaveToTheGrind said:
I don't know what agreement the US has with Denmark but they really need to just kick out the US if they can. Trump needs to drop the "we need Greenland" rhetoric. Other countries can backfill or Denmark can increase their military. They are a NATO ally and we do have a military presence.
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Sometime soon, Trump will unilaterally declare Greenland a US Protectorate and just slowly absorb it into America de facto. What can Denmark or NATO do about it, really?

Denmark's rule over Greenland has not been exemplary at all times. But, as my signature reads "Greenland is for Greenlanders" and they, alone, should be deciding their future. Trump's scumbagginess just keeps getting stinkier and stinkier.
 
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