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Music 🎵 Today's Music Break thread

SlaveToTheGrind said:
So a question...Hollywood always portrays fighting between the Army and all other branches. Since the Marines and Navy work close together, I assume the same does not hold true. Hollywood also shows that when the Army and Marines meet in bar, a fight will inevitably break out and the MPs clear it out. If the Navy and Marines meet in a bar, what happens? Bad mouth the Army or the cushy accommodations and duties of the Air Force?
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Anytime I worked with another branch it was just good natured giving each other crap about their branch. There's always a respect that the other person has what it takes to be in the military too and understands the good and bad of it. I'm sure fights break out once in a while because people are people, but the reality is, we've got each others back in the end.

I did hang out with Marines in Myrtle Beach and Tunisia. In SC it was just a party, they gave me shit and I gave it right back. In Tunisia, the embassy was the only place we could drink and they were glad to see someone new.

Also, I didn't hang out at a bunch of Marine bars because who wants to lower their IQ like that. Air Force bars are too snobby, I'm not sure what the Army does, go camping? If you want to get laid you go to a Navy bar because that's where the ladies go when the fleet leaves.
 
DVD said:
Anytime I worked with another branch it was just good natured giving each other crap about their branch. There's always a respect that the other person has what it takes to be in the military too and understands the good and bad of it. I'm sure fights break out once in a while because people are people, but the reality is, we've got each others back in the end.

I did hang out with Marines in Myrtle Beach and Tunisia. In SC it was just a party, they gave me shit and I gave it right back. In Tunisia, the embassy was the only place we could drink and they were glad to see someone new.

Also, I didn't hang out at a bunch of Marine bars because who wants to lower their IQ like that. Air Force bars are too snobby, I'm not sure what the Army does, go camping? If you want to get laid you go to a Navy bar because that's where the ladies go when the fleet leaves.
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In another life, I was a Seabee in the Pacific during WWII and it was hell. Than I was reincarnated as a Hippie who draft dodged Vietnam but ended up dying in 1990, now I am in my current incarnation.

I respect all servicemen & women for putting their ass on the line for Team America, but IMO, Navy is the coolest branch. My Uncle Nick (1917-1984) was an actual Seabee in the Pacific, my Uncle Tony (1923-2012-forever) was aboard a Destroyer and P.T. Boats in the Pacific. My Uncle Rich (1961-2070) was a Lieutenant-Commander who served on Nuclear Submarines 1983-92. My family has a very high degree of respect for our Navy as do I, even if I am a pinko.

Here's some music about the Navy ;)

 
SlaveToTheGrind said:
So a question...Hollywood always portrays fighting between the Army and all other branches. Since the Marines and Navy work close together, I assume the same does not hold true
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Captain America Lol GIF by mtv

Ever hear the saying 'familiarity breeds contempt?' In the eyes of the Marines, all other branches are lame. An illustrating anecdote: in basic training we were going to do the obstacle course for the first time and the DI said something like, "This is the Marine Corp obstacle course. You'll note how difficult and long it appears. If you were in the Army, they might have you go over one obstacle. If you were in the Navy, they'd probably have everyone look at pictures of the obstacles and read an article about how they can be climbed. If you were in the Air Force, they'd have a group discussion about your feelings concerning the obstacle course, but since you dumbasses signed up for the Marine Corps you have to actually complete them all."
 

I particularly like the understated guitar work that starts around 2:49. Not flashy but cool.
 
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Ever hear the saying 'familiarity breeds contempt?' In the eyes of the Marines, all other branches are lame. An illustrating anecdote: in basic training we were going to do the obstacle course for the first time and the DI said something like, "This is the Marine Corp obstacle course. You'll note how difficult and long it appears. If you were in the Army, they might have you go over one obstacle. If you were in the Navy, they'd probably have everyone look at pictures of the obstacles and read an article about how they can be climbed. If you were in the Air Force, they'd have a group discussion about your feelings concerning the obstacle course, but since you dumbasses signed up for the Marine Corps you have to actually complete them all."
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This is true. An example, when women were allowed to join combat positions the Marine Corp did not lower its standard. The Army did. The Navy questioned how one gets into a combat position like it's some kind of karma sutra thing.
 
SlaveToTheGrind said:
So a question...Hollywood always portrays fighting between the Army and all other branches. Since the Marines and Navy work close together, I assume the same does not hold true. Hollywood also shows that when the Army and Marines meet in bar, a fight will inevitably break out and the MPs clear it out. If the Navy and Marines meet in a bar, what happens? Bad mouth the Army or the cushy accommodations and duties of the Air Force?
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Don Draper is the Marine in this conversation:

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When the Navy and the Marines meet in a bar we usually go looking for a hole in the bathroom stall.
 
SlaveToTheGrind said:
So a question...Hollywood always portrays fighting between the Army and all other branches. Since the Marines and Navy work close together, I assume the same does not hold true. Hollywood also shows that when the Army and Marines meet in bar, a fight will inevitably break out and the MPs clear it out. If the Navy and Marines meet in a bar, what happens? Bad mouth the Army or the cushy accommodations and duties of the Air Force?
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More serious response:

One of the units I was in did a ton of training with other branches and spent a significant amount of time at the Special Forces command at Fort Bragg. When we were there for an extended period of time and we given our own barracks or squad bay, we stuck to ourselves and if we had to go to the main part of the base (to the PX or movies or whatever) we would go with 3 or 4 of us at a time. I never saw Marines try to start sh!t with the soldiers but did see soldiers try to start sh!t with the Marines and the Marines do sort of stick out like a sore thumb on a base full of soldiers if you know what you're looking for. For the most part, 99.99% of the soldiers on the base were fine and didn't care about us but some of the guys from Airborne School or Rangers or wherever liked to assert their dominance and just could not stand our presence for whatever reason. They were "Special Forces" and we were not and they didn't like that a lot of us got to go to many of the same schools and training that they did. It never got physical but we still didn't trust them. There was a reason we went to the common areas of the base with a few other Marines.

Fast forward a few months and we're deployed to areas of the former Yugoslavia and then on to a ship off the tiny sliver of coast for Bosnia and a team of Rangers comes aboard our ship for about a week while they're flying in and out of Bosnia and Kosovo and Serbia doing lord knows what. We've got our own team of Force Recon Marines and they were honestly some of the nicest dudes in our unit. They were working with these Rangers while they were ashore and doing intel sharing and stuff like that so a couple of our Recon guys thought they'd get along well and they go to where the Rangers set up a makeshift berthing area in the hanger deck to hang out or play cards or swap war stories or whatever but the Rangers were having none of it and absolutely refused to socialize with anybody. The Marines didn't take kindly to their hospitality being rebuffed so they did what a good Recon unit would do and went back in the middle of the night and stole tactically acquired a bunch of the Rangers' gear. From what we were told, the Recon Marines went through the gear and most of the personal gear got thrown overboard and much of the government issued gear got locked away. Weapons were already secured in the armory so it wasn't like they were stealing their rifles or something but basically anything that wasn't locked up or being held tight while the Rangers slept on it found a new home. Rangers wake up and go searching for their gear and try just going everywhere they want on the ship and somehow find their way into "Officer Country" and generally causing a ruckus which the neither the ship's XO nor the Marine XO were going to put up with so the Navy's Master at Arms came to physically remove the Rangers from the area and fists flew.

I don't know what the final outcome was but I don't think there were any non-judicial punishments for anybody but the Rangers were moved to a different ship (with many fewer Marines) that afternoon and there were a few nifty "high-speed low-drag" pieces of gear that appeared in our berthing area in the following days that looked suspiciously like what some of the Rangers had been issued.
 
@The Terminator - Every week Pitchfork publishes a long-form review of some significant or noteworthy album... and this week's review is of Fully Completely from The Tragically Hip!

The Tragically Hip: Fully Completely (1992)

As with anything from Pitchfork, some of these long-form reviews are better than others (some of the writers at Pitchfork tend to be too navel-gazey and verboise and like to cram as much vocabulary into their writing as they can) but some of these reviews are pretty good. This is one of the better ones I've read on there in a while and gives a nice history of the band and how over-the-top popular they were in Canada.
 
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WSU MUP Student said:
@The Terminator - Every week Pitchfork publishes a long-form review of some significant or noteworthy album... and this week's review is of Fully Completely from The Tragically Hip!

The Tragically Hip: Fully Completely (1992)

As with anything from Pitchfork, some of these long-form reviews are better than others (some of the writers at Pitchfork tend to be too naval-gazey and verboise and like to cram as much vocabulary into their writing as they can) but some of these reviews are pretty good. This is one of the better ones I've read on there in a while and gives a nice history of the band and how over-the-top popular they were in Canada.
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That was a really great read, and I am glad Pitchfork give the album such a high rating. Fully Completely is probably their best work. My personal top are Road Apples (1991), Fully (1992) and Day for Night (1994). I disagree with Pitchfork that the Hip only belonged to Canada. Upstate New York and Southeastern Michigan go hard for the Hip, and you cant write a complete story about Gord & the Lads without mentioning the loyal fanbases in Buffalo & Detroit, where they would pack Cobo Hall and The Aud.


^ Very good live take of one of the Fully Completely tracks, recorded when I was 3 weeks old.
 
The Terminator said:
That was a really great read, and I am glad Pitchfork give the album such a high rating. Fully Completely is probably their best work. My personal top are Road Apples (1991), Fully (1992) and Day for Night (1994). I disagree with Pitchfork that the Hip only belonged to Canada. Upstate New York and Southeastern Michigan go hard for the Hip, and you cant write a complete story about Gord & the Lads without mentioning the loyal fanbases in Buffalo & Detroit, where they would pack Cobo Hall and The Aud.
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Yeah, I saw them in/around Detroit a few times over the years (Pine Knob in '02, the Fox Theatre in '04, the Filmore (aka State Theatre) in '09, and then across the border in Sarnia, Ontario in 2011) and they always packed the place when they would play here. I think those Fox and State Theatre shows had 2 or 3 dates each when they were in town. I saw them twice on that tour in '04 with the other time being at the House of Blues in Myrtle Beach and they drew a pretty good crowd down there too but not anywhere near what they would get up here.

The 2011 show was my favorite - it was at a local festival called Sarnia Bayfest or something like that. The Tragically Hip were the headliners and the Joel Plaskett Emergency and the Arkells also played. I have a Handsome Furs shirt that I feel like I must have gotten at that concert so I think they played there too?

The Tragically Hip were great of course but I also loved Thrush Hermit and Joel Plaskett's solo stuff so I was psyched to see Emergency live for the first time and he delivered by playing a ton of stuff off of Ashtray Rock which was one of my favorite albums of the few years before then. It's one of those albums I still go back to and listen to start to finish quite a bit nearly 20 years after it was released.

 
^I have this album and enjoyed it well enough but I saw Jet open for Oasis in 2005 and they were honestly one of the worst live bands I have ever seen. Their set was so bad that I don't think I ever willingly listened to them again. :rofl: Wasn't one of their songs also used in an iPod commercial? That may be the only place I've heard them since that concert.

Reminds me of Counting Crows - I loved the album August and Everything After but I saw them with the Wallflowers in '95 or '96 and my god Counting Crows were awful live. It just ruined any appeal of the band for me. Even a few years later when Recovering the Satellites was a #1 album and "A Long December" was a massive hit song, I just didn't get it. Can a lead singer be so annoying that you lose all respect for a band? That's what happened for me. Just recently, I was listening to the 60 Songs that Explain the '90s podcast episode about "A Long December" and from the sounds of it, Adam Duritz is sort of a divisive figure among people who have seen the band live. He likes to improvise a ton on stage and that's not what a lot of the casual fans show up for.

Anyway... here's Wonderwall

 
WSU MUP Student said:
^I have this album and enjoyed it well enough but I saw Jet open for Oasis in 2005 and they were honestly one of the worst live bands I have ever seen.
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You have obviously never attended a Mudvayne concert. I did and they were opening for Megadeth. Awful, just awful. Mudvayne, not Megadeth.

I'll spare you pain of Mudvayne.

 
Remember...this was 1993. :brofist: :cool:

'1969' was alive and well in 1993...and this song still kills today in 2025.

 
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mendelman said:
Remember...this was 1993. :brofist: :cool:

'1969' was alive and well in 1993...and this song still kills today in 2025.

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Something else to ponder is the fact that 1969 was 24 years before 1993 and 1993 is an even greater interval of 32 years from today.
 
My daughter has been doing vocal lessons for about 3 months. She's painfully quiet when she talks and we're trying to get her to vocalize a bit more. For whatever reason she has really zeroed in on over the top 1980's songs. So this is what we've listened to on repeat for the last week.


I didn't realize this song was written by Jim Steinman, who is better known for writing Meatloaf's Bat of Hell album and Celine Dion's It's All Coming Back to Me Now. I probably should have recognized it, but I was only 4 when Bonnie Tyler released this song.
 
bureaucrat#3 said:
My daughter has been doing vocal lessons for about 3 months. She's painfully quiet when she talks and we're trying to get her to vocalize a bit more. For whatever reason she has really zeroed in on over the top 1980's songs. So this is what we've listened to on repeat for the last week.


I didn't realize this song was written by Jim Steinman, who is better known for writing Meatloaf's Bat of Hell album and Celine Dion's It's All Coming Back to Me Now. I probably should have recognized it, but I was only 4 when Bonnie Tyler released this song.
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This seems like it would be perfect for vocal training.

See also this recent video:



And this 'diction' classic:

 
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SlaveToTheGrind said:
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If I'm going to spend 4 minutes listening to "Winds of Change", I'll go for this version:


I do like the Jefferson Starship song you posted and while I'm not really a Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship/Starship fan, that's definitely a band group of loosely tied together musicians that had an interesting trajectory.
 

The Shaggs probably deserve their own thread. Personally, I fall squarely into the "no one in the history of western civilization has had less musical aptitude than these three poor girls" camp as opposed to the "they are much maligned geniuses who stuck their fingers in the eyes of convention, power, and male authority" camp. You be the judge.
 
I had heard of The Shaggs but don't think I ever actually listened to them until earlier this year when I was listening to The Cobain 50 on KEXP and there was an episode about their album Philosophy of the World (which contains that "My Pal Foot Foot" song).

After listening to the episode I listened to the whole album. While I don't agree with Rolling Stone that "it may be the worst album ever recorded," it's definitely... something.

If you're a fan of "outsider art" music like Daniel Johnston or Wesley Willis or more mainstream stuff like Zappa or Captain Beefheart I can definitely see some connections.
 
Safe inside of my own illusion, it's the hope that kills you.
 
Spandau Ballet's "True" has been stuck in my head the past week+ so it's been on near constant repeat here. I never had MTV growing up so I don't recall ever seeing the video so of course I had to go to YouTube to check it out. It doesn't let me down in terms of the early '80s-ness of it:





And the next logical stop on the musical journey (I do remember this video):

 
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