NEVERENDING ♾️ The NEVERENDING Beer Thread

[michaelskis]

Brewery----------------------Beer----------------State----------Medals--------Category
Big Rock Chop House--Got Rocks Russian--MI--Bronze--Imperial Stout
Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales Oro de Calabaza --MI--Bronze--Belgian-and French-Style Ale
Redwood Brewing Co.--Darth's Dark Lager--MI--Bronze--American-Style Dark Lager
Rochester Mills Beer Co--Sacrilicious Stout--MI--Bronze--Classic Irish-Style Dry Stout
Royal Oak Brewery (The)--Royal Oak Red--MI--Gold--Scottish-Style Ale

Oh, ok. That is much better!

 

[NHPlanner]

NHP, I really liked Smuttynose.

I've yet to find anyone that hasn't liked it. Glad you got a chance to try it!

 

[zman]

Sent to me by a Coworker...

Beermat

I believe this is a marvel at German engineering as well as a great way to get loaded a lot quicker. I think that this could serve a greater purpose than just a novelty you'd get at the mall.

 

[prana]

I tried the Finnish Shanti? (Sp?)

not a style that is done very often, but brewers are tending to drift back toward historical styles more and more over the last decade. I've only ever had two. One was great and the other tasted like hell.
Sahti
Description:
Said to be one of the only primitive beers to survive in Western Europe, Sahti is a farmhouse ale with roots in Finland. First brewed by peasants in the 1500s, mashing (steeping of grains) went down in wooden barrels, and then that mash would be scooped into a hand-carved wooden trough (a kuurna) with a bed of juniper twigs that acted as a filter. The bung at the bottom of the kuurna would be pulled to allow the sweet wort (liquid infusion from the mash) to pass through the twig filter, followed by wort recirculation and a hot water sparge (rinsing of the grains), all of which created a juniper infusion of sorts.

Sahti is also referred to as being turbid, because the wort isn’t boiled after lautering (separation of spent grain and liquid), leaving loads of proteins behind, thus providing tremendous body. A low-flocculating Finnish baker’s yeast creates a cloudy unfiltered beer, with an abundance of sediment. Traditional Sahti is not typically hopped, so the task of balancing is left up to the juniper twigs, which impart an unusual resiny character and also act as a preservative. Some have compared Sahtis to German Hefeweizens, though we find them to be more akin to the Lambics of Belgium due to the exposure to wild yeast and bacteria, and its signature tartness.

Average alcohol by volume (abv) range: 7.0-11.0%

Colorado's Brewer's Guild A really good organization that is still growing and now has almost half of the breweries and brewpubs in Colorado all working toward one goal. It's a great thing for the local beer industry. The beers that they tend to do for festivals are collaborative efforts between a few of the brewers and have always turned out well.

 

[zman]

Thanks a Bunch, prana! As you know, I like learning about this stuff, and you have been a most patient and learned professor!

 

[Miles Ignatius]

So Many Beers; So Little Time

So...did Zman and Miles survive the weekend?

Jeff:

A grand and stellar event in all respects.

I volunteered for the pour team during Saturday afternoon's session and reaffirmed my Tempe homeboy status by getting assigned to 4 Peak's booth. What great work they do! Their barley wine (Hopscotch-8.3% ABV) is to die for; the IPA (Hopknot) is grand stuff; and their Scottish Ale (Kiltlifter) disappeared quicker than my ability to could keep the pitcher filled. And the 8th Street Ale ("Ordinary Bitter") has been one of my long time favorite ESB's.

When I got a break, I wandered the floor and sampled the wares from Anchor, Sierra, Dogfish, Great Lakes, Stone and a host of others. All one can conclude after an experience like that is now's a great time to be alive and there's no excuse for mediocre beer. And, thanks for Light Rail!

Sunday, I volunteered for the clean up team - a formidable task but we got through it all by noon. As an appreciation of the effort, we'll get to sample some of the untapped kegs. I'm in training for that, now...

And before I forget it - your post after our successful Ft. Collins Laefest mentioned that you'd forgotten about something you were going to forward me - I believe it was the link for Beer Advocate - I'd written it down and have since checked it out - great site and thanks!:b: :b: :b: :b: :b:

 

[Miles Ignatius]

Why German Beer Is Going To Hell

A German company -- in an ultimate act of retro defiance -- has announced its plans to produce nicotine-laced beer. Bars and restaurants may soon see decreasing levels of nervous finger-tapping and panicky lip-biting.

[URL="http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1732310,00.html?maca=en-topstories-83-rdf[/URL]

Didn't the Bible say something about not "spewing our seeds on the ground?" Isn't this a waste of hops (to the extent the Germans utilize them,) barley, water and yeast? What a pity.....:b: :b: :b: :b: :b:

 

[Maister]

A German company -- in an ultimate act of retro defiance -- has announced its plans to produce nicotine-laced beer. Bars and restaurants may soon see decreasing levels of nervous finger-tapping and panicky lip-biting.

[URL="http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1732310,00.html?maca=en-topstories-83-rdf[/URL]

Didn't the Bible say something about not "spewing our seeds on the ground?" Isn't this a waste of hops (to the extent the Germans utilize them,) barley, water and yeast? What a pity.....:b: :b: :b: :b: :b:

This is one of the big reasons German opponents to the EU cite. The Rheinheitsgebot (German purity law) was the thing which set German beers apart. By adopting the same commercial standards as the rest of Europe, allowing things other than water, barley, and hops, the German government diluted their brewers market and reputation.
In fairness to German breweries, this is the first infraction of the Rheinheitsgebot I have heard of since they joined the EU. I understand all German breweries had until now made a voluntary pledge to follow it and it will interesting to see what would happen if some German brewery started making REAL MONEY by putting other additives in their beer. FWIW I predict the nicotine beer will go nowhere.

 

[JNA]

Makers of world's best beer seek piety, not profit
Monks' brew sold on black market

Headline and Article from the Louisville Courier Journal:
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051010/BUSINESS/510100304/1003

Highlights:
A Web site survey (http://ratebeer.com/) rated the Westvleteren 12 beer, made by the abbey of St. Sixtus in Westvleteren, Belgium, as the world's best.

....as the beer ages, potential customers will call the abbey's "beer phone," which has a message that tells them when the beer will go on sale (36 times a year, for as long as stock lasts).

On the first day the beer goes on sale, cars start lining up at the abbey at 5:15 a.m., Brother Joris said. The gates open at 10 a.m., and buyers are limited to two cases per car. "Not to be resold" is stamped on the receipts, but customers regularly disregard the monks' wish, and the coveted beer is exported, unlabeled and without permission, to America and elsewhere.

Illegally imported Westvleteren beer sells for $8 to $12 a bottle in specialty bars and restaurants in the United States.

 

[Big Owl]

I was craving some pumpkin beer. I wound up settling on Blue Moon Pumpkin Ale. Not the greatest but soothes the craving. I need to take advantage of North Carolina removing the alcohol limit that use to be 6%. Has anyone had a Weyerbacher Imperial Pumpkin Ale? I haven't seen my local supermarket selection grow quite yet... i guess i have to make it to the local beer and wine store.

 

[Maister]

I was craving some pumpkin beer. I wound up settling on Blue Moon Pumpkin Ale. Not the greatest but soothes the craving. I need to take advantage of North Carolina removing the alcohol limit that use to be 6%. Has anyone had a Weyerbacher Imperial Pumpkin Ale? I haven't seen my local supermarket selection grow quite yet... i guess i have to make it to the local beer and wine store.

Shoulda read post #364 before you bought that Blue Moon. I found the pumpkin ale to be disappointing this year. In previous years that was not the case, but for whatever reason this batch seemed underspiced.

 

[Big Owl]

Shoulda read post #364 before you bought that Blue Moon. I found the pumpkin ale to be disappointing this year. In previous years that was not the case, but for whatever reason this batch seemed underspiced.

Thanks i should have... On a side note i did enjoy some Sam Adams Cherry Wheat a couple of weeks ago.

 

[biscuit]

I was craving some pumpkin beer. I wound up settling on Blue Moon Pumpkin Ale. Not the greatest but soothes the craving. I need to take advantage of North Carolina removing the alcohol limit that use to be 6%. Has anyone had a Weyerbacher Imperial Pumpkin Ale? I haven't seen my local supermarket selection grow quite yet... i guess i have to make it to the local beer and wine store.

The availability of Pumpkin brew is one of my favorite treats in the Fall season. From the sampling party we had the other night I've narrowed my two favorites from this year down to Wild Goose Pumpkin Ale and the Dogfish Head. Both excellent brews, with the Dogfish probably the better of the two. My least favorite this year would have to be the Saranac. To me it just tasted like regular Saranac with added allspice.

 

[michaelskis]

Thanks i should have... On a side note i did enjoy some Sam Adams Cherry Wheat a couple of weeks ago.

That is a great beer. The nice thing is that you can get it at more and more places I these days. I also like the Sam Adams Octoberfrest.

 

[Bubba]

Abita

The Abita Brewery, which somehow survived Hurricane Katrina without damage (for the most part), has created a new brew to support the disaster relief (one dollar from every six pack sold is being donated):

http://www.abita.com/party/restoration_ale.html

My local watering hole is sponsoring a Hurricance Relief Party Saturday night, featuring the Restoration Ale and other Abita beers. Hmm, let me see...drinking beer for charity...I think I might have to check that out...:b::b: :b: :b:

 

[The One]

Ok....

I had some great draft beer at the October Fest recently (TUCHER ALE) out of a keg. Just got some at the store and it was SKUNKY as all get out......I'm sad because I LOVED that stuff.....:-(

 

[Joe Iliff]

I was able to try Yuengling (yingling? yengling?) while in Jacksonville this week. Pretty good. Thought is was only available on the east coast though. Didn't know you could get it in the south.

 

[Big Owl]

I was able to try Yuengling (yingling? yengling?) while in Jacksonville this week. Pretty good. Thought is was only available on the east coast though. Didn't know you could get it in the south.

we just got it here in NC within the last few years. I had in pittsburg and philly about five years back... it pretty good stuff for yankee beer I had some Genesee Beer during the same... i didn't remember enjoying but i remember it was cheap.

 

[dobopoq]

I was able to try Yuengling (yingling? yengling?) while in Jacksonville this week. Pretty good. Thought is was only available on the east coast though. Didn't know you could get it in the south.

I remember trying Yuengling for the 1st time about 5 years ago. Seemed good at the time. But my palate rapidly grew bored with it.

Tonight I tried two beers from the Denver-based Great Divide Brewing Co., which are among the many varieties available at the local Whole Foods. The Hibernation Ale boasts a hefty 8.1% ABV. It was kinda like drinking liquid shoe leather - quite sweet with a syrupy porter-like varnish taste. It would probably be an effective solvent for cleaning brown leather shoes. I had half a mind to chuck it after just the first sip. But I went with it and got some woozy :-o enjoyment from it. Then I tried the Titan IPA at 6.8% ABV. It bills itself as piney - which is one way of putting it. Maybe it was just the transition from the Hibernation, but it was very funky tasting. I can't remember the last time I've had two microbrews with such a gutwrenching taste+o( . At least the IPA was less sweet than the Hibernation, but still it kinda tasted the way you might imagine fermented bong water might taste:-s :-\ |-). On the 5-star scale, dobopoq gives both these beers 1 star - and that's just because at least they'll give you a nice buzz. It's hard to say which is better: a bland macro bladder workout or a foul-tasting micro that will knock you on your ass. To not warn others about these beers would be like remaining silent witness to a crime, the way they ended Seinfeld. I'm telling you, you could brew better tasting beer in a dumpster.

BridgePort
Any of you Great Northwest folks familiar with BridgePort Brewery's line? An article in the local rag sheet this morning mentioned that three of their brews (IPA, ESB and Black Strap Stout) were now going to be available in the Atlanta area.

The brewery is in my neighborhood. I don't recall having had the ESB or the Black Strap Stout. I have had the IPA, which is pretty bad. I prefer IPA's so I guess I'm somewhat picky. Their IPA is mostly has a sweet malty taste without that much hop oomph! It's kinda like a more flavorful Michelob. Somewhat hoppy, but with a disturbingly metallic taste.

 

[Budgie]

HATS OFF TO CARDINAL !!!! He bestowed upon yours truly 6 bottles of beer which were consumed by King B, Queen B and myself. An Alaskan Amber and in my drunken stooper I can not recall the other, but both were tastee and well received.

 

[michaelskis]

I was able to try Yuengling (yingling? yengling?) while in Jacksonville this week. Pretty good. Thought is was only available on the east coast though. Didn't know you could get it in the south.

Ohhhh I could so go for a Lager. But since I do not live in PA anymore, no Yuengling for me. As for the south question, they now have a brewery in FL as well as to the main brewery and historic (America’s Oldest) in Pottsville PA. If you get a chance someday, the free tour of the historic brewery is amazing.

 

[Maister]

I had the best stout this weekend I've ever drank! (yes you heard that right - better than Guinness!)Young's Chocolate Stout!
http://www.youngs.co.uk/ProductPage.aspx?pageID=11&&productID=6
The chocolate was quite subtle and it was surprisingly well balanced. Stouts and other ales with lots and lots of body are easy to screw up the balance. Their properties tend to produce something syrupy sweet and to counteract this quality some brewers throw a ton (and stouts can accomodate a ton) of hops in to help 'bitter' things up a bit. Some of the less desirable stouts I've had seemed like they focused on dry hopping at the end - the stout still tasted syrupy but had a very hoppy 'bouquet' that really didn't do justice to the taste.

Well, Young's got it dead on right. The choc stout is perfectly balanced. Perfectly.

 

[michaelskis]

I bought one of the Sam Adams Holiday boxes yesterday. It has two bottles of each of the following beers:
Sam Adams Boston Lager
Sam Adams Black Lager
Sam Adams Winter Ale
Sam Adams Old Fessiwig Ale
Sam Adams Cranberry Lambic
Sam Adams Holiday Porter

I had one of the Porters last night. I thought that it was quite good.
Anyone know of any other holiday sample packs that might be available?

 

[Big Owl]

I bought one of the Sam Adams Holiday boxes yesterday. It has two bottles of each of the following beers:
Sam Adams Boston Lager
Sam Adams Black Lager
Sam Adams Winter Ale
Sam Adams Old Fessiwig Ale
Sam Adams Cranberry Lambic
Sam Adams Holiday Porter

I had one of the Porters last night. I thought that it was quite good.
Anyone know of any other holiday sample packs that might be available?

The Cranberry Lambic Sounds good. I think i might have tried the Winter Ale before, i don't remember it being bad

I saw the Saranac 12 Beers of Winter at my local Sam's club this weekend. Looked inviting may have to pick one up.

The local beer and wine selection around here is limited unless i want to drive a bit. i need to learn to brew my own. What do you need to get started for a rank amatuer?

 

[Mark]

Costco, at least the one I shop at, has Goose Island, Molson, Labatt, Michelob, Lienenkuegal, Arcadia (pub sampler) and Sam Adams holiday cases.

 

[Suburb Repairman]

I bought one of the Sam Adams Holiday boxes yesterday. It has two bottles of each of the following beers:
Sam Adams Boston Lager
Sam Adams Black Lager
Sam Adams Winter Ale
Sam Adams Old Fessiwig Ale
Sam Adams Cranberry Lambic
Sam Adams Holiday Porter

I had one of the Porters last night. I thought that it was quite good.
Anyone know of any other holiday sample packs that might be available?

I like Sam Adams... probably among my favorite widely-available domestics. I picked one of these up the other day as well.


Has anyone had a pumpkin ale before? I had one the other day at a local adult beverage dispensing establishment that was quite tasty. I need to go back and get the name for ya'll.

EDIT: Nevermind, went back a few pages and found it discussed.

 

[zman]

I am on the hunt for some holiday/winter ales and maybe the variety packs discussed above. It's a good thing I got paid today. ;-) My beer supplies are getting low, just some Coors Lights left over that I will take to my dad.

You see, I am gradually getting weened off of macro swill and have recently became addicted to Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.

I always liked Winter/Holiday beers and will probably be spending tonight. I do hope we get the Sam Adams pack in Colorado. I also wonder if Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale is out, as well as this season Isolation Ale from Odells.

I hope prana is checking in, and could advise this Northern Colorado Planner.

 

[prana]

I haven't been keeping up on the Great Nation of Cyburbia since changing firms...but I heard this cry for help!
Sam Adams Winter is in stores in 6 packs. No sure about a mixed 12er though.
In no particular order, but all available in Colorado!
Odell Isolation
Great Divide Hibernation
Avery Old Jubilation
Sierra Nevada Celebration
Flying Dog K-9 Cruiser
Sam Smiths Winter Warmer
Young's Winter Warmer
Pyramid Snowcap
Anderson Valley Winter Solstice
Deschutes Jubelale
Full Sail Wassail
Bridgeport Ebenezer
Breckenridge Christmas Ale
Left Hand XXXMas Ale
Anchor Our Special Ale (haven't seen this one yet!)

It just doesn't seem fair to load these beer up with extra alcohol and then give them long "-ation" names!! Brewers have a great sense of humor. "Give me another pint of hiseberalation, pleeeeease."

EDIT: almost forgot New Belgium 2 Below and Frambozen!

 

[Maister]

It just doesn't seem fair to load these beer up with extra alcohol and then give them long "-ation" names!! Brewers have a great sense of humor. "Give me another pint of hiseberalation, pleeeeease."

Oh heck, why not? Brewers have had fun for years with the suffix "-ator" (used to denote a dopplebock style). There's Salvator, Celebrator, Kulminator, Troegenator, Instigator, Terminator.....you get the idea

BTW I give Frambozen 4 stars!

 

[JNA]

Researchers: Hops in Beer May Be Healthy

Headline and Article from AP Wire:
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...05662.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

Highlights:
Some beers already have higher levels of flavonids than others. The lager and pilsner beers commonly sold in domestic U.S. brews have fairly low levels of these compounds, but some porter, stout and ale brews have much higher levels.

Still, the level of the compound in beer is generally considered too low to have any significant preventive effect.

Although the tiny amounts of xanthohumol found in beer have little preventive value, Stevens thinks it may be possible in the future for drug companies to develop pills containing concentrated doses of the flavonoid.

 

[Maister]

Is it just me or does it seem like the state of Colorado produces the highest percapita quantity of craft brew afficianodos? (and probably one of the highest breweries/population ratios for that matter) I wonder why that is...

 

[zman]

Is it just me or does it seem like the state of Colorado produces the highest percapita quantity of craft brew afficianodos? (and probably one of the highest breweries/population ratios for that matter) I wonder why that is...

We're thirsty, Friend!;-)

 

[Richmond Jake]

I'm getting thirsty, too. I'll stop and get a 6-pack of Bud Light in cans on the way home tonight.

 

[Maister]

I'm getting thirsty, too. I'll stop and get a 6-pack of Bud Light in cans on the way home tonight.

Ah, but True Beer Connoiseurs will insist that you serve your Bud Lite at 7 degrees celsius, no more and no less. Then plug your nose and gulp it down as quickly as possible!

 

[zman]

I'm getting thirsty, too. I'll stop and get a 6-pack of Bud Light in cans on the way home tonight.

Hamms. From the land of sky blue waters. That's all I'll drink out of a can!;-)

 

[prana]

Is it just me or does it seem like the state of Colorado produces the highest percapita quantity of craft brew afficianodos? (and probably one of the highest breweries/population ratios for that matter) I wonder why that is...

You're mostly correct. We have the second most microbreweries/brewpubs in the nation (behind California) with 85 +/- and obviously a much smaller population than Cali. Boulder is also home of American Brewers Association and home of the American Homebrewers Association (Beertown).

But as far as beer afficianodos...there are lots of us out here but I think we pale in comparison (pun intended) to Southern Cal, Portland, OR or the Boston area. Just a feeling with no real proof, but San Diego and Portland both have INCREDIBLE beer scenes and the great distribution of New England beers have seemed to center around Boston.

 

[Maister]

Hamms. From the land of sky blue waters. That's all I'll drink out of a can!;-)

Speaking of which, does anyone know what happened to generic beer (you know, you bought it at the grocery store and it used to be packaged in white cans and said "beer" in black lettering)?

 

[prana]

Hamms. From the land of sky blue waters. That's all I'll drink out of a can!;-)

You're missing out on Oskar Blues Dale's Pale or their Scottish ale, Old Chub. And you're missing SKA's beers out of Durango!! New England Brewing has 3 pretty tasty beers in cans also!

 

[zman]

You're missing out on Oskar Blues Dale's Pale or their Scottish ale, Old Chub. And you're missing SKA's beers out of Durango!! New England Brewing has 3 pretty tasty beers in cans also!

I lived with a guy in college that would always drink Dale's. It was good, but I have forgotten what it tastes like. Maybe I will pick those up tonight as well. ;-)

Isn't Dale's out of Lyons? Yet another reason why I like Northern Colo.

 

[prana]

Yep- they're in Lyons. Started canning when they got the contract to be the only micro on Frontier Airlines which of course required cans instead of bottles. So...they went out and bought a used canning line and have since expanded but it's another good brewing "business" story in Colorado, along with New Belgium's rise from the 200 sq. ft. in a basement to one of the top 5 breweries in the country in 15 years.

 

[Richmond Jake]

Ah, but True Beer Connoiseurs will insist that you serve your Bud Lite at 7 degrees celsius, no more and no less. Then plug your nose and gulp it down as quickly as possible!

Y'all are preachin' to da choir. Dis Connie-sewer knows all the tricks of proper canned beer presentation. Can y'all balance a cold one on yours belly?

 

[noottamevas]

Ah, but True Beer Connoiseurs will insist that you serve your Bud Lite at 7 degrees celsius, no more and no less. Then plug your nose and gulp it down as quickly as possible!

I like to poke a hole in the bottom of the can and "shotgun" it:b: :b: :-b

 

[imaplanner]

I like to poke a hole in the bottom of the can and "shotgun" it:b: :b: :-b

The best way to do it is compete with your friends. When everyone else is done and someones still chugging- they gotta pour the rest on their head. Fun times!

 

[hilldweller]

I was able to try Yuengling (yingling? yengling?) while in Jacksonville this week. Pretty good. Thought is was only available on the east coast though. Didn't know you could get it in the south.

It is hard to find any sort of non-commercial beer here in Florida. sam adams is probably the closest thing i've seen to a microbrew though it is definitely mass-produced. And what' s up with no 30-packs?

 

[donk]

I think I have found the runner up for the worst beer ever - Upper Canada Red. Tasted like it was over fermented and tasted/smelled like wine. Not a good beer to drink on an empty stomach.

 

[dobopoq]

Has anyone had a pumpkin ale before? I had one the other day at a local adult beverage dispensing establishment that was quite tasty. I need to go back and get the name for ya'll.

EDIT: Nevermind, went back a few pages and found it discussed.

I tried - I think it was Sam Adams Pumpkin Ale, last fall, which was ok, but kinda bland. Just a Holloween gimmick.

Update on my trashing of Great Divide: The Hibernation is actually palatable, but in moderation and it will give a nice buzz:a: . The somewhat pine-solish Titan IPA is actually decent. As opposed to being very bitter, or too malty or very citrusy in the hops, it goes piney in an otherwise balanced concoction. Beats the hell out of a Budwiser.

I also wonder if Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale is out

I'm enjoying one now. I think I like it more than the pale ale.

The colder weather is putting me in the mood for some of the chocolatey stouts Maister was talking about.

I'm enjoying the Pyramid Snow cap tonight. Nice competitor to Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale in winter genre. Snow Cap packs a hefty 7.0% ABV. You gotta love the snow capped Great Pyramids with pine trees on the label. Ice Age Hits Egypt!

 

[Boru]

Last week I did a marketing session for Carlsberg. I got to drink a few different beers that they have in their stable (Elephant Brew anyone?) which was a pleasant way to spend and hour and a half. They paid me to boot! The real reason was that they were trying out a new line of beers called "Johanssons". They had 4 beers in the brand, a dark beer, a brown ale, a fruit beer and a blonde beer. Has anyone else come across these before? The dark beer was dee-lishee-us.

 

[zman]

Winter Beers are here!

I picked up a 6 of:
Isolation Ale from Odell
Frambozen Baspberry Brown from New Belgium (the only fruit beer I will drink)
and Winterhook from Red Hook.

All have hit the spot and satisfied a craving for winter ales.

I am still waiting patiently for Celebration to be distributed here, but maybe I'll have to check other beer stores.

 

[imaplanner]

I'm enjoying the Pyramid Snow cap tonight. Nice competitor to Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale in winter genre. Snow Cap packs a hefty 7.0% ABV. QUOTE]

I heard that the snow cap that comes on tap is stronger- like 10%. But that could just be a nasty rumour. I can tell you that it tastes a little different out of the tap though- so maybe it is stronger. I know i had two of them the other night at a bar and I was feeling like i had more than 2 beers. My darts were not throwing very straight after that...

 

[Planit]

They have finally allowed higher alcohol brew in NC, :b: :b: I've bought a few to try. Flying Dog Ale's Horn Dog is a 10.3% Barley Wine Ale which is very good. Wee Heavy is quite good as well. Tonight's tasting will be Meantime IPA (9.3%) Can't Wait.......