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The Girl is a counselor at a sleep-away camp for girls this summer. It's her 3 (& last) year as a counselor & it's the same camp she's been going to since she was 6.

This weekend, she got certified for swift-water rescue (she has other certifications too). Last night @ the first day of counselor orientation, they told her she was Head of the Waterfront which means she's responsible for all water related activities this summer. She's very excited (plus there's a $ bonus).
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Jen said:
Congratulations to her!
My girls went to an all girls sleep away camp too! In Newaygo Mi. Later one became a counselor and then was promoted to “Tripping Director”. In charge of all the off campus trips going hither and yon.

They both go back for the alumni reunions and some special events.

My spouse was wrangled into volunteering there as a van driver taking campers to hiking trails and ferry docks. He didn’t mind at all but the commute to camp was a bit of a drag. Then last year they offered him a paid summer job that includes room and board( a private room in their air conditioned health lodge) He goes up and stays M-F helps to open camp, set up the platform tents, put in the docks, fix and repair stuff. When camp opens he’ll be driving the vans and get this, he has to drive the ski boat too! 🚤 so he reports to both the Tripping Director and Head of Waterfront. Yep one summer he reported to his daughter for duty.

I otoh pitch in $$ for their fundraising campaigns and call it good. 😝
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My 10 year old will be going to sleep away camp for the first time this year. I'm excited for her as my oldest had no interest. I went every year and always had a great time.
 
kjel said:
My 10 year old will be going to sleep away camp for the first time this year. I'm excited for her as my oldest had no interest. I went every year and always had a great time.
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Camp was cool. No two ways about it. Junior had no interest in going to camp, but I went to camp several times as a youth and had lots of fun.
 
What is this camp you speak of? When I was younger we just wondered out in the desert with Steve's dad and caught lizards and rattlesnakes with a fishing pole.

1. Don't laugh, this is a true story.
2. You're questioning the fishing pole. You tie a slip knot in the line. The the critter slide through the slip knot and pin them with the pole while tightening the know. Then you can do what you want with them. Also important note, you need to pin them just behind the head.
3. What did we do with these snakes? Steve's dad did some taxidermy stuff so he could turn them into belts and things.
4. Also rattlesnake is tasty.
 
I did sleepaway camp 2 or 3 summers when I was a kid and I loved it. We've tried to convince our oldest but she's been having none of it. She has a few friends that go every summer for quite a few weeks and she's love to go with them but they all go to a camp in the area for Jewish kids so she's SOL on that front.
 
Ahh yes that was one thing we wanted to steer clear of, a camp with a religious affiliation. Bit of a bummer for your girl, come west to Camp Newaygo!
 
I had 5 different summer camp experiences

1- YMCA day
2 - YMCA sleepaway - in a cabin
3 - Boy Scout sleepaway - in a wall tent on a platform
4 - Troop camp - on an island in Canada - best experience with my father
5 - Boy Scout sleepaway - as a counselor for merit badges in the Adirondacks NY
 
I loved my weeks at Boy Scout camp. Like JNA, that was a wall tent on a platform with cots. We all had a foot locker that held most of our stuff and was at the foot of the bed. Memories of Camp Sinoquipe remain some of my best. Learned a lot and had a ton of fun.
 
Planit said:
The Girl is a counselor at a sleep-away camp for girls this summer. It's her 3 (& last) year as a counselor & it's the same camp she's been going to since she was 6.

This weekend, she got certified for swift-water rescue (she has other certifications too). Last night @ the first day of counselor orientation, they told her she was Head of the Waterfront which means she's responsible for all water related activities this summer. She's very excited (plus there's a $ bonus).
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Here's where that is

North Carolina Sleepaway Camp for Girls, Camp Glen Arden

Camp Glen Arden is a summer camp for girls located in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. A wide verity of activities are offered to ensure that every girl loves her time at camp.
campglenarden.com campglenarden.com
 
Planit said:
The Girl is a counselor at a sleep-away camp for girls this summer. It's her 3 (& last) year as a counselor & it's the same camp she's been going to since she was 6.

This weekend, she got certified for swift-water rescue (she has other certifications too). Last night @ the first day of counselor orientation, they told her she was Head of the Waterfront which means she's responsible for all water related activities this summer. She's very excited (plus there's a $ bonus).
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Congrats to her.
 
Best part of summer camp was earning many of the merit badges you would not normally get the rest of the year -

Camping,
Cooking,
Pioneering,
Swimming,
Canoeing
Rowing,
Life Saving,
 
Jen said:
Ahh yes that was one thing we wanted to steer clear of, a camp with a religious affiliation. Bit of a bummer for your girl, come west to Camp Newaygo!
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Camp Newaygo looks pretty good, I'll have to point my wife to that one in case we can ever convince the girl to go.

She might not have a choice about camp next year though: She's still enjoying Girl Scouts and they have a pretty good, active troop in her middle school. Some of the moms have been talking about sending all the kids to the Girl Scout camp over on this side of the state next year. The troop also wants to apply to go to the scout camp on Mackinaw Island next summer or the summer after that (I guess they need to apply and then they have to do some work there or something?). We figure if it's scout camp she'll definitely have a few friends there so she might not be as resistant.


The camp I went to growing up was run by the Episcopal diocese of Eastern Michigan and was located here in the extreme northern part of the county. It was actually right across the lake and next to the Jewish camp that all of my daughter's friends go to. We did drink a lot of Kool Aid but I'm pretty sure that wasn't part of the religious experience at this camp. ;) The only churchy thing I can remember about camp all the years I went was making a "God's Eye" thing one year. Other than that we did a lot of hiking and canoeing and hiking and scratching bug bites and swimming and hiking. And some more hiking.

The property was a few thousand acres and I think the counselors weren't that creative so there was a lot of hiking involved because they could just send us out and let us basically get lost all day (I seem to recall that we would be split into teams and do a lot of capture the flag type games).

That section of the county has a bunch of small lakes and rolling hills and had quite a few large camps in the area until residential development started spreading up that way making the land more valuable if it were parceled off for subdivisions. I believe all of the large camps, except the Jewish camp, have been sold off for development. I know the last remaining parcels of my beloved Camp Gordonwood were sold off back in '16 or '17, and I think that was the last of those camps still holding on.
 
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My youngest is at sleepaway camp for the first time (she's 10) and doing ok. In addition to snail mail I can send her a bunk note through and app which the camp prints out and delivers during mail time-it comes with a mad libs style worksheet she can fill out if she wants and will be scanned back to us.

The note was addressed to "FAMILY" and not mom.
The coolest thing she has done so far is archery....because she can shoot things :ha:
The food is "pretty good".

Also the camp uploads many photos from the day every evening. My oldest was looking at them on Monday and decided that her sister needed a pair of Crocs because many of the other kids and counselors wear them. She went to the Crocs store next to her office, bought her a pair, and sent them priority mail to her at camp. I'm like she has two pairs of sneakers, boots, water shoes, and shower shoes...she's fine. And the oldest said but I WANT HER TO HAVE THEM.

Lord help me.
 
My 11y/o is at sleepaway camp for the first time- a camp I went to and was a CIT at for a summer. It's pretty much just like it was when I was there- except for massive amounts of covid retesting on check-in (they had to show up with a recent PCR and did a rapid and a PCR upon check-in)

Oh, and on our "meet the counselors" tour instead of just a camp nurse they also have a camp social worker with a comfort dog. Considering 75% of the nurse's job used to be dealing with homesick kids, I'd say this is a pretty great idea!
 
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The Girl is finishing up her 2nd year as a camp counselor @ a girls sleep-away camp. She has been going to summer camp there since she was 5.

She said the other night she "grew up there but its not the same as being a camper" I think she's ready to come home since she's been there since the end of May.
 
6 years working at a summer camp in the 1990s (from Kitchen staff to counselor, to division head, to Land/Sports Director). Best summers of my life.

Both my kids have now attended the same camp as campers (my youngest just completed his 7th summer there), my wife has spent a few years working in the back office, and this summer I got re-engaged as the coordinator for the busses that take campers between the camp in NH and Long Island, NY as a nice little side gig for a few extra $.

So yeah...you could say that I think summer camp is a good thing. :)
 
NHPlanner said:
6 years working at a summer camp in the 1990s (from Kitchen staff to counselor, to division head, to Land/Sports Director). Best summers of my life.

Both my kids have now attended the same camp as campers (my youngest just completed his 7th summer there), my wife has spent a few years working in the back office, and this summer I got re-engaged as the coordinator for the busses that take campers between the camp in NH and Long Island, NY as a nice little side gig for a few extra $.

So yeah...you could say that I think summer camp is a good thing. :)
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Bella is having a great time at summer camp, I post the photos that I received on FB. Her team won color wars over the weekend!
 
Not entirely thrilled that we don't find out Itty Bitty's teacher until 4pm the day before school starts. Itty Bitty's best friend won't be in her class this year as she is a grade below Itty Bitty. We are hoping that some of her other friends are in the same class.

We are thinking of switching her to the other campus next year as they seem to have more and better services and programs. But it will add to our commute and means more big changes for Itty Bitty.

It is sometimes hard to figure out what "doing the best" actually means.
 
dandy_warhol said:
Not entirely thrilled that we don't find out Itty Bitty's teacher until 4pm the day before school starts. Itty Bitty's best friend won't be in her class this year as she is a grade below Itty Bitty. We are hoping that some of her other friends are in the same class.

We are thinking of switching her to the other campus next year as they seem to have more and better services and programs. But it will add to our commute and means more big changes for Itty Bitty.

It is sometimes hard to figure out what "doing the best" actually means.
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This where the science of parenting becomes an art: do what your gut tells you is right, and don't look back. You guys got this. :cool:
 
dandy_warhol said:
Not entirely thrilled that we don't find out Itty Bitty's teacher until 4pm the day before school starts. Itty Bitty's best friend won't be in her class this year as she is a grade below Itty Bitty. We are hoping that some of her other friends are in the same class.
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Ugghhh.... I feel your pain (but on a lower level). We don't find out our younger daughter's 1st grade teacher until next Monday or Tuesday (about a week before school starts) and my wife is very anxious that she might not be in class with her best friend and they all keep the same teacher and classmates for 1st and 2nd grade so if they aren't together this year, they also won't be together next year. I have to remind my wife that there are only three small classes of 1st graders in the school and they have a lot of stuff that the classes do together so it's not as if they will never see each other. I am nervous too though as I do want them to have class together.

When our youngest was in kindergarten, they told us who her first (and second) grade teacher would be on the last day of school. That was awesome. I wish the school still did that.

I do have fond memories of when I was a kid of having to go past the school everyday this time of year waiting to see if they had posted the class lists, then looking for your name and being able to see who all was in your class. It was anxiety inducing waiting for those lists, but it was also fun. These days, we just get an email with your kid's teacher's name and class room number then all the parents start texting and emailing each other to see who is in the same class unless the teacher sends the whole class a class list.

And I also agree with @Gedunker that sometimes you just gotta trust your gut and go with it. If you do start second guessing yourself, don't let the kiddos see that! Project confidence in your poor decisions! :rofl:
 
My very soon to be 13 yr old son (the youngest) is on a 'classics' reading kick right now (of his own choosing).

He recently finished 1984 and Fahrenheit 451, currently in the midst of Treasure Island.

So at dinner last night, I suggested A Brave New World (Huxley), The Man In The High Castle (P.K. Dick), Mother Night (Vonnegut) and Time Out Of Joint (P.K. Dick).

As I suggested Dick novels, he said he was intrigued by one that was 'like Do Androids Sleep..something, something...', so I jumped right in with Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep? by P.K. Dick. Which I then reminded him that the movie Blade Runner is adapted from this book.

So, I promptly pulled all of the above suggested books from our personal library and stacked them nicely to the side for him to grab at his leisure.

I am exceedingly proud and excited he's choosing these literary paths on his own right now. It makes me genuinely weepy typing this post.

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@mendelman - My oldest, who just turned 12, is a voracious reader. She loves fantasy and a little bit of science fiction and dystopian stuff.

There was a point last year where she was asking for book suggestions so I made a pile of stuff for her including Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451, Cat's Cradle, and War with the Newts. She read Animal Farm and was like, "meh" and about a third of Fahrenheit 451 but then somebody had given her the Hunger Games books and she quietly put my suggestions back onto the bookshelves on the den and hasn't looked back.

I was going to point her towards Fight Club because I'm pretty sure she'd really dig that but now I'm not going to yet, just out of spite.
 
WSU MUP Student said:
@mendelman - My oldest, who just turned 12, is a voracious reader. She loves fantasy and a little bit of science fiction and dystopian stuff.

There was a point last year where she was asking for book suggestions so I made a pile of stuff for her including Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451, Cat's Cradle, and War with the Newts. She read Animal Farm and was like, "meh" and about a third of Fahrenheit 451 but then somebody had given her the Hunger Games books and she quietly put my suggestions back onto the bookshelves on the den and hasn't looked back.

I was going to point her towards Fight Club because I'm pretty sure she'd really dig that but now I'm not going to yet, just out of spite.
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Give her the Asimov Foundation series. She may really dig it once she gets through Asimov's writing style, which is a little more dense and opaque than a modern sci-fi author's. But it's filled corner to corner with mid-20th century version of high sci-fi (aka the future tech in the book, may seem a bit anachronistic and/or quaint to a GenZ sensibility).

Others - World War Z (Max Brooks), Station Eleven (Emily St. John Mandel), The Bobiverse series (Taylor) and 2030 (Albert Brooks)

I think she'd likely love the Bobiverse series. All three of my boys (and me) read the series this summer and really enjoyed it. It all about Von Neumann probes, settling Earth-class planets in nearby star systems, interstellar war with human proxies and alien civilizations, abandoning a dying Earth, and a really well executed level of snark and goofiness.
 
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mendelman said:
Give her the Asimov Foundation series. She may really dig it once she gets through Asimov's writing style, which is a little more dense and opaque than a modern sci-fi author's. But it's filled corner to corner with mid-20th century version of high sci-fi (aka the future tech in the book, may seem a bit anachronistic and/or quaint to a GenZ sensibility).

Others - World War Z (Max Brooks), Station Eleven (Emily St. John Mandel), The Bobiverse series (Taylor) and 2030 (Albert Brooks)

I think she'd likely love the Bobiverse series. All three of my boys (and me) read the series this summer and really enjoyed it. It all about Von Neumann probes, settling Earth-class planets in nearby star systems, interstellar war with human proxies and alien civilizations, abandoning a dying Earth, and a really well executed level of snark and goofiness.
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Thanks for the recommendations. I added a bunch of stuff to her library account so next time she goes in, she's got some stuff to grab.

FWIW, I never read WWZ but I listened to the audiobook. It was one of the better audiobooks I've ever listened to and it was more like an audio play with a whole bunch of different voice actors for each part, instead of one person reading it all.
 
My youngest started 5th grade today. She wasn't in a mood for photos so I just took two quick snaps, one in front of the door and the other as she was walking to school. There were some moms that were walking past the house having already dropped their kids off looking at me like...you aren't going to walk her? Nope. The beauty of living across the street from the school! The school is so small that there's only one class for each grade and most of the teachers have been there long term so there are no surprises.I think there are 13-14 kids in her class. Two moved over the summer, but there's one new student and this time it's another girl which she is happy about. For the past two years there have only been 4 girls in the class.

The bigger school district she attended before you would not know the teacher until the first day of school and even then sometimes you'd start the year with a long term sub while they were finalizing hiring contracts.
 
kjel said:
My youngest started 5th grade today. She wasn't in a mood for photos so I just took two quick snaps, one in front of the door and the other as she was walking to school. There were some moms that were walking past the house having already dropped their kids off looking at me like...you aren't going to walk her? Nope. The beauty of living across the street from the school! The school is so small that there's only one class for each grade and most of the teachers have been there long term so there are no surprises.I think there are 13-14 kids in her class. Two moved over the summer, but there's one new student and this time it's another girl which she is happy about. For the past two years there have only been 4 girls in the class.
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That sounds similar to class sizes at our elementary school except the girl:boy ratio is reversed. Our youngest had 16 kids in her kindergarten class last year and there were only 4 boys. This year's 1st grade class is a similar size with about the same breakdown between girls and boys. Our oldest started 7th grade last week and her classes have been overwhelmingly girls as far back as we can remember. Last year, her social studies class had 12 kids and they were all girls. This year, her gym class has 18 kids with only 3 boys.

My wife and I have noticed how many more girls there are in the schools here than boys going back to when our youngest was in preschool.

We have friends in some neighboring districts with kids roughly the same age as ours but they see a more even split between girls and boys in their schools. Maybe it really is something in our water! :rofl:
 
WSU MUP Student said:
That sounds similar to class sizes at our elementary school except the girl:boy ratio is reversed. Our youngest had 16 kids in her kindergarten class last year and there were only 4 boys. This year's 1st grade class is a similar size with about the same breakdown between girls and boys. Our oldest started 7th grade last week and her classes have been overwhelmingly girls as far back as we can remember. Last year, her social studies class had 12 kids and they were all girls. This year, her gym class has 18 kids with only 3 boys.

My wife and I have noticed how many more girls there are in the schools here than boys going back to when our youngest was in preschool.

We have friends in some neighboring districts with kids roughly the same age as ours but they see a more even split between girls and boys in their schools. Maybe it really is something in our water! :rofl:
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Is the whole school that lopsided? Or is that just certain classes that happened to be heavily female?
 
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Is the whole school that lopsided? Or is that just certain classes that happened to be heavily female?
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The entire school seems very lopsided and it has been as long as we've been here.

My boss has kids in that school and my oldest has had classes with a couple of her sons. I made a comment about the gender split at the school to my boss once. She has four sons and says she's trying to do her part to even things out for years now but it just hasn't worked out.
 
WSU MUP Student said:
@mendelman - My oldest, who just turned 12, is a voracious reader. She loves fantasy and a little bit of science fiction and dystopian stuff.

There was a point last year where she was asking for book suggestions so I made a pile of stuff for her including Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451, Cat's Cradle, and War with the Newts. She read Animal Farm and was like, "meh" and about a third of Fahrenheit 451 but then somebody had given her the Hunger Games books and she quietly put my suggestions back onto the bookshelves on the den and hasn't looked back.

I was going to point her towards Fight Club because I'm pretty sure she'd really dig that but now I'm not going to yet, just out of spite.
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Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series is a must read for her.
 
Oldest is in 7th grade and yesterday got an invitation to join the National Junior Honor Society. :nerd:

Based on some insight from a family friend who has an older daughter who was in the NJHS at this school a few years ago, it is a very active group. She hasn't decided whether or not she is going to join but either way, I'm pretty proud of her.
 
Not that this applies to you, @WSU MUP Student but I was pretty surprised at how much of a private cottage industry there is in promoting academic achievement of our children, much of it scammy as hell. For $45.00, we'll list Junior in the Who's Who of American Kids Class of 2036. Buy now and save big for the lifetime renewal!

Sadly, you know folks fall for it.
 
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Not that this applies to you, @WSU MUP Student but I was pretty surprised at how much of a private cottage industry there is in promoting academic achievement of our children, much of it scammy as hell. For $45.00, we'll list Junior in the Who's Who of American Kids Class of 2036. Buy now and save big for the lifetime renewal!

Sadly, you know folks fall for it.
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And I still paid to have my daughter's short story published in an anthology. Do you think I know where that book is today?
 
Gedunker said:
Not that this applies to you, @WSU MUP Student but I was pretty surprised at how much of a private cottage industry there is in promoting academic achievement of our children, much of it scammy as hell. For $45.00, we'll list Junior in the Who's Who of American Kids Class of 2036. Buy now and save big for the lifetime renewal!

Sadly, you know folks fall for it.
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The "who's who in high school sports" was the scam of the day when I was younger.

When I got promoted to PD I had to deal with like 2 years of spam emails after asking me to pay to have the two-line bit in the local paper about it republished in some "who's who" compendium.
 
Just learned a little while ago son is also diagnosed with ADHD (together with Autism).

"But what are you going to do with it? That's what I'd like to know."
 
That is my experience of two years at Camp Mitigwa in Iowa. First night, had an odd number so I'm in a wall tent on pallets and sleeping on a cot. Pallets had been in place for several weeks of camp so the mice made a few nice homes under the pallets. Woke up one night to a mouse pulling a zipper of a pack to get at food in the pocket. Bears are extremely rare in Iowa so not much of a threat to have food in the tent. Also, far enough away from the main building that we did not hear the tornado warning siren blaring. Just sitting in our tent with the flaps up watching the rain.
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Gedunker said:
Just learned a little while ago son is also diagnosed with ADHD (together with Autism).

"But what are you going to do with it? That's what I'd like to know."
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I am sorry to hear that. Hopefully y'all can find something that works. You live close to a large city, so maybe there is something that can help.\
 
Whose Yur Planner said:
I am sorry to hear that. Hopefully y'all can find something that works. You live close to a large city, so maybe there is something that can help.\
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Thanks. I'm not implying that I'm saddened by the Dx, though. In fact, I'm actually pretty happy for him because it explains a lot of the executive function problems he has contended with for a very, very long time. He's been able to mask some of it with his intelligence, but that only lasts so long. Now he's going to be able to find help that will work for him (or so we hope).

He did get a chuckle from me when he told my the psych told him my evaluation was no help in making the Dx any clearer. I'm horrible at quasi-binary questionnaires that basically ask is this fact true, a little true, a little untrue, or untrue? I always think, well, it's this, but let me explain - and there's nowhere to explain.
 
btrage said:
Dealing with the drama of my almost 20-year old daughter and her on again/off again boyfriend is becoming tiresome.
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I feel you. RT and her long term boyfriend hit a relatively rough patch a couple of years ago and my husband and I had some concerns. I talked to her about choosing supportive and positive relationships, working on communication, and that not all relationships are meant to go the distance. My husband talked to him about a couple of things which he agreed he needed to work on for himself. Normally we would not talk to the boyfriend about anything, but we know the family issues that were contributing factors at the time.

I think the hard part with adult children is that they don't always accept our advice. I always tell RT, that there's nobody on the planet that loves her more and wants all the best for her than me and I think that always pulls her back to center.
 
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Thanks. I'm not implying that I'm saddened by the Dx, though. In fact, I'm actually pretty happy for him because it explains a lot of the executive function problems he has contended with for a very, very long time. He's been able to mask some of it with his intelligence, but that only lasts so long. Now he's going to be able to find help that will work for him (or so we hope).

He did get a chuckle from me when he told my the psych told him my evaluation was no help in making the Dx any clearer. I'm horrible at quasi-binary questionnaires that basically ask is this fact true, a little true, a little untrue, or untrue? I always think, well, it's this, but let me explain - and there's nowhere to explain.
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Hopefully the addition of this DX can help G in the long run with therapies and perhaps meds that can help him.
 
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I feel you. RT and her long term boyfriend hit a relatively rough patch a couple of years ago and my husband and I had some concerns. I talked to her about choosing supportive and positive relationships, working on communication, and that not all relationships are meant to go the distance. My husband talked to him about a couple of things which he agreed he needed to work on for himself. Normally we would not talk to the boyfriend about anything, but we know the family issues that were contributing factors at the time.

I think the hard part with adult children is that they don't always accept our advice. I always tell RT, that there's nobody on the planet that loves her more and wants all the best for her than me and I think that always pulls her back to center.
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Thank you. Helps to hear it form someone else. Her boyfriend also has some family trauma that I think has led to some of his issues. I feel good knowing that my daughter has established boundaries of behavior she will no longer tolerate. But I'm worried that at such a young age they shouldn't have to work this hard at a relationship, if that makes any sense.

My daughter for sure knows that her mom and I have her back, and has been very open about the issues they've faced. Which is kind of a double-edged sword because it muddies my view of the boyfriend.
 
btrage said:
Thank you. Helps to hear it form someone else. Her boyfriend also has some family trauma that I think has led to some of his issues. I feel good knowing that my daughter has established boundaries of behavior she will no longer tolerate. But I'm worried that at such a young age they shouldn't have to work this hard at a relationship, if that makes any sense.

My daughter for sure knows that her mom and I have her back, and has been very open about the issues they've faced. Which is kind of a double-edged sword because it muddies my view of the boyfriend.
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1000%. You should absolutely feel good that she has established boundaries for what she will/won't tolerate, continue to support that. I think we will always worry no matter how old they are. RT turns 30 this year, she's still with the boyfriend and they are living together now and doing very well. I don't think his family issues are going to improve, but he's learned how to set boundaries for himself which he actively maintains. He said that me and my husband were the kick in the ass he needed to get himself together in a good way. We're sort of de facto parents and have helped him through a lot of chaos his mother has caused over the years. He's finishing up his MBA later this year with his remaining GI Bill, and started a civilian job with the Department of Defense in January.

I know lp has also experienced the ups and downs of parenting 20 somethings so you are definitely not alone.
 
Older daughter married a great fellow 8 yrs ago. Younger one is engaged now to another great guy.

We have been attending weddings and funerals a lot lately. One question I put a lot to my grown kid parents is this one. When yours are adults do they become your peers?
 
Trying not to go full Mama Bear on 2 little cretins who told a "friend" that they didn't like Itty Bitty's face.

These 3 have been pulling mean girl shit all year and we have told Itty Bitty all the right thingsand she has responded accordingly but this is the last straw. Itty Bitty has 1 more day of school this year for fks sake.
 
dandy_warhol said:
Trying not to go full Mama Bear on 2 little cretins who told a "friend" that they didn't like Itty Bitty's face.

These 3 have been pulling mean girl shit all year and we have told Itty Bitty all the right thingsand she has responded accordingly but this is the last straw. Itty Bitty has 1 more day of school this year for fks sake.
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Then go full Mama Bear on their mama's. I've been doing a slow burn over this all morning.
 
kms said:
Then go full Mama Bear on their mama's. I've been doing a slow burn over this all morning.
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Thanks! I appreciate the support. I have been running hot ever since Itty Bitty told me. These girls have been so mean to her all year and now she is grateful that the one that told her is acting like her friend. We've had multiple discussions about what a true friend says and acts.

This is a small private school with a code of conduct. These actions are in direct violation of the code of conduct. Now that we have it documented multiple times with the school I am ready to go in guns blazing...........but I hate confrontation.
 
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