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Have you ever read the rough first draft of the Declaration of Independence? It is really interesting and I think Jefferson realized there was zero chance of full support unless it changed up quite a bit.

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There’s a particular kind of parent who thinks they are elite and are adulting real hard when they pay room, board, and tuition for their kids four-year education while openly mocking loser students at the community college who have to work while studying in order to pay their own tuition bill.
 
Caucacity
is a slang term used to make fun of behaviors perceived to be stereotypically white
or to call out what’s seen to be a particularly bold instance of white privilege or racism.

Ketanji Brown Jackson graduated magna cum laude from Harvard-Radcliffe College and cum laude from Harvard Law School where she was an editor of the Harvard Law Review. She had 20 years experience as a lawyer and 10 years experience as a federal judge when she was nominated for the Supreme Court.

They called her a DEI hire.

Mark Wayne Mullin has a high school diploma and a 2 year community college degree in construction management, no military or law enforcement service, and was a cow-calf rancher. He was nominated by Trump as the secretary of Homeland Security.

They have the caucacity to call this meritocracy.
 

This whole thing angers me. We can hit a target with pin-point accuracy and they need to be sure of what they are targeting.

Congratulations Trump, you just took another step at making the whole world hate us.
 
Interesting substack article concerning the press conference Trump held after engaging in the latest round of aggression with Iran.

 

This whole thing angers me. We can hit a target with pin-point accuracy and they need to be sure of what they are targeting.

Congratulations Trump, you just took another step at making the whole world hate us.
The story goes that this is pointing towards misuse of Claude AI lacking human verification. The bigger concern is the double-tap method of a second strike designed to wipeout rescuers--that's a truly dark criminal action.

A thought I've begun considering is what happens when the USA ends up on the receiving end of rogue state/war criminal sanctions, which is starting to seem likely? The USA has been accused and investigated in the past by the ICC, but what's happening now is hitting much differently and Trump's pariah status of pushing countries to not rely on the USA may actually embolden them and the ICC to take action against us. Rightfully, I might add.
 
A thought I've begun considering is what happens when the USA ends up on the receiving end of rogue state/war criminal sanctions, which is starting to seem likely? The USA has been accused and investigated in the past by the ICC, but what's happening now is hitting much differently and Trump's pariah status of pushing countries to not rely on the USA may actually embolden them and the ICC to take action against us. Rightfully, I might add.
I'm more worried about sleeper cells' activation in the US with no 'notice'.

I think this is a real and highly probable fact.
 
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Reports of a mass shooting at a Jewish facility in Michigan. :-(
They hit a freakin' REFORM synagogue! Probably the kind of fine distinction that doesn't matter at all to terrorists. Kinda like the same lack of distinctions when you read rants on RW websites or comments sections about "we oughta bomb the hell out of all those A-rabs in Iran" :r::cursing:
 
They hit a freakin' REFORM synagogue! Probably the kind of fine distinction that doesn't matter at all to terrorists. Kinda like the same lack of distinctions when you read rants on RW websites or comments sections about "we oughta bomb the hell out of all those A-rabs in Iran" :r::cursing:
Turns out it was not a mass shooting; someone drove into the synagogue and was prepared with weapons, etc., but was shot and killed by the security guard.

So glad nothing happened beyond that. Many of my closest friends happen to be Jews, and I get along with everyone of all shapes, sizes, and colors.
 
^ This happened a few miles west of our neighborhood and a couple of the schools in our district were on lockdown (they're much closer to that particular synagogue than our elementary and high school are). My friend lives over that way and he said he was hearing tons of sirens and helicopters overhead before the alerts started hitting phones and the news he figured something was up but didn't know what/where things were happening.

IIRC, Temple Israel is the largest synagogue in Michigan in terms of membership, and one of the largest in the country. It's facility is pretty extensive with a school and an early childhood center, meeting spaces, etc. We've been there for a bat mitzvah and a bar mitzvah and are close friends with a few families that go there regularly. I'm glad to hear that it sounds like the shooter was the only casualty.

Temple Beth El is much closer to our house and we know a lot of families that go there. They had a similar incident back in 2022 that also, thankfully, did not turn out as bad as it could have been. Ever since that incident they now have a round the clock security checkpoints to get on to their property. On a less somber note, The current home of Temple Beth El was designed by noted architect Minoru Yamasaki and it's truly a striking building inside and out.



One final note on the active shooter at the temple... My wife and I were both at home at the time of the incident and a little afterwards her cell phone got an automated emergency alert telling her to shelter in place but I did not get one. I wonder how that happens?
 
^ This happened a few miles west of our neighborhood and a couple of the schools in our district were on lockdown (they're much closer to that particular synagogue than our elementary and high school are). My friend lives over that way and he said he was hearing tons of sirens and helicopters overhead before the alerts started hitting phones and the news he figured something was up but didn't know what/where things were happening.

IIRC, Temple Israel is the largest synagogue in Michigan in terms of membership, and one of the largest in the country. It's facility is pretty extensive with a school and an early childhood center, meeting spaces, etc. We've been there for a bat mitzvah and a bar mitzvah and are close friends with a few families that go there regularly. I'm glad to hear that it sounds like the shooter was the only casualty.

Temple Beth El is much closer to our house and we know a lot of families that go there. They had a similar incident back in 2022 that also, thankfully, did not turn out as bad as it could have been. Ever since that incident they now have a round the clock security checkpoints to get on to their property. On a less somber note, The current home of Temple Beth El was designed by noted architect Minoru Yamasaki and it's truly a striking building inside and out.



One final note on the active shooter at the temple... My wife and I were both at home at the time of the incident and a little afterwards her cell phone got an automated emergency alert telling her to shelter in place but I did not get one. I wonder how that happens?
Did you opt out of them in settings?
 
What is it with people today? Just a few minutes down the road from our house, at a shopping center we frequent, there is a Mexican supermarket.

Someone threatened to shoot it up today, went in do so, and got shot dead by cops. Two Sparks PD injured.

I really hope the motive was NOT just because it was a Mexican supermarket. (Hey, we go in there ourselves sometimes. Great place for spices.)

 
Excursion
A usually short journey made for pleasure; an outing.
A group taking a short pleasure trip together.
Incursion
An aggressive entrance into foreign territory; a raid or invasion.
a hostile entrance into a territory : raid
 
There’s a particular kind of parent who thinks they are elite and are adulting real hard when they pay room, board, and tuition for their kids four-year education while openly mocking loser students at the community college who have to work while studying in order to pay their own tuition bill.
Yep. I experienced this with my oldest kiddo. She did go away the first year thanks to a generous scholarship. She did ok, but didn’t like her program and opted not to go back the second year. Enrolled in community college for a year where she thrived and then transferred to one of the local state schools, lived at home, and commuted daily. I even encouraged her to slow down, take 4 classes a term and do well in them rather than race through 5 and do just ok. She graduated with honors and minimal debt.

Like I told her when she was in high school, you’ll get your child support directly from ages 18-21 and I will match what you receive for the months you are at school. You’ll have to budget $ for yourself after that since the support will drop off after your 3rd year. I’m paying for an education, not an experience.
 
I experienced this

You had people (the elitists) look down on you for lacking the aspirational foundational strength because you had to lower yourself down and allow your daughter to go to one of them glorified high schools? [sarcasm turned up to eleven]

But seriously, have you actually been dissed by family and/or friends for letting your child go to a community college? I ask because I am trying to process the things an in-law said to me recently about community colleges and I matriculated from one before transferring to a four-year institution. I’m just looking for support through shared experiences, it’s bizarre to me that I’m just discovering the disdain I’m receiving from this person in my family.
 
You had people (the elitists) look down on you for lacking the aspirational foundational strength because you had to lower yourself down and allow your daughter to go to one of them glorified high schools? [sarcasm turned up to eleven]

But seriously, have you actually been dissed by family and/or friends for letting your child go to a community college? I ask because I am trying to process the things an in-law said to me recently about community colleges and I matriculated from one before transferring to a four-year institution. I’m just looking for support through shared experiences, it’s bizarre to me that I’m just discovering the disdain I’m receiving from this person in my family.
Tell them that they should pay for your kids education if that’s their issue. 😎
 
You had people (the elitists) look down on you for lacking the aspirational foundational strength because you had to lower yourself down and allow your daughter to go to one of them glorified high schools? [sarcasm turned up to eleven]

But seriously, have you actually been dissed by family and/or friends for letting your child go to a community college? I ask because I am trying to process the things an in-law said to me recently about community colleges and I matriculated from one before transferring to a four-year institution. I’m just looking for support through shared experiences, it’s bizarre to me that I’m just discovering the disdain I’m receiving from this person in my family.
You're good. Tell them to suck it and/or pay for the freshman year at a 'proper' university, then. Direct them my way and I'd be happy to them off for you. :) :cool: :brofist:

More data points for them to ponder:

I did my freshman year at my local community college and then got into Michigan for my sophomore year and then got my BA and MUP at Michigan.

My sister (born 1971) went to the same community college, took a couple years off to work, then went to Central Michigan to finish her BA and currently has a good 25+ year upper level peon job with Genesse County District Library and owns her own home in the 'nice' part of Burton, MI.

My brother (born 1974) only has an Associates in Drafting from the same community college but is effectively has been the go-to practical problem solver engineer (though technically lacks the BA engineering degree) for two prominent manufacturing companies in our hometown for the last 31 years. Has a paid off house and a retirement fund to rival my sister and me.

And finally, our parents are both BA/MA degreed [1964/1966] public directors (both retired from full-time as of about 2009) from Central Michigan/Western Michigan (mother) and SUNY-Buffalo [name in 1964]/Western Michigan (father). And they were effectively the first in their wide extended families to get BAs and MAs.
 
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. . . But seriously, have you actually been dissed by family and/or friends for letting your child go to a community college? I ask because I am trying to process the things an in-law said to me recently about community colleges and I matriculated from one before transferring to a four-year institution. . .
No need to process anything. They are an asshole. The world is full of them. Do not waste a speck of time worrying about what others think about something like this. The problem is their own insecurity, not yours. Being happy and successful is the best counter to that kind of B.S.
 
You had people (the elitists) look down on you for lacking the aspirational foundational strength because you had to lower yourself down and allow your daughter to go to one of them glorified high schools? [sarcasm turned up to eleven]

But seriously, have you actually been dissed by family and/or friends for letting your child go to a community college? I ask because I am trying to process the things an in-law said to me recently about community colleges and I matriculated from one before transferring to a four-year institution. I’m just looking for support through shared experiences, it’s bizarre to me that I’m just discovering the disdain I’m receiving from this person in my family.
I agree with the above comments.
My nickle opinion - here in Indiana there is Ivy Tech - they have
Next Level Jobs is a program that gives you the opportunity to earn a FREE credential from Ivy Tech, thanks to the Workforce Ready Grant.
Look at their list of programs https://www.ivytech.edu/programs/signature-opportunities-for-students/next-level-jobs/ (Next Level Jobs - Ivy Tech Community College)
 
I don't know about your part of the world, but here we encourage kids to go to community college for a couple years. Almost all of it transfers to the state school of your choice. Plus, do what I did. Take classes you suck at like chemistry at CC. It's cheaper, and the grade only transfers as a pass/fail so it doesn't hit your GPA.
 
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