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Show Fox pundits are complaining that Joe rode a bike this weekend and Kamala flipped a coin at the Howard v Hampton football game because they should be at the White House fixing the mess.

Yes, that's important news worthy stuff right there. :r:
 
Planit said:
Show Fox pundits are complaining that Joe rode a bike this weekend and Kamala flipped a coin at the Howard v Hampton football game because they should be at the White House fixing the mess.

Yes, that's important news worthy stuff right there. :r:
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That is what the news does... they did the same thing to Trump, Obama, Bush, and Clinton. (Sometimes it was golfing instead of biking)

Sometimes the President getting out to do something life flipping a coin or throwing out the first pitch is exactly what the US needs from its leaders.
 
Yeah, this shit happens no matter who the President is. You can't have it both ways. "Bush is at his ranch clearing brush". "Trump is playing golf" and then get pissed because "Biden goes bike riding" is a thing. I agree it doesn't matter at all and it's not like any of them were truly "off" but that's the way it works. Accept it, it's only going to get worse.
 
What in the wide world of sports is a-goin' on in Texas ?

After Trump request, Texas auditing 2020 election results in four large counties
www.cbsnews.com

After Trump request, Texas auditing 2020 election results in four large counties

Joe Biden won three of the four, including one that usually goes for Republicans. There was no word on any link between Trump's request and the decision to conduct the audits.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

former President Trump, continuing to falsely claim the election was stolen, pressed Republican Governor Greg Abbott for a ballot review.
Mr. Trump won Texas last year by 5.5 percentage points, the closest margin of victory by a GOP presidential nominee in decades.
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The Arizona audit shows that Biden won by more than they originally calculated.

What happened to the Republican party who was cost conservative and didn't want to waste money on frivolous things. I don't feel like budget conservative republicans can possibly exist now.
 
There has been quite a bit in the media regarding the video of border patrol agents on horseback trying to prevent people from crossing the board illegally.

I have only seen small clips of that along with video of crowds of people being held back at the boarder and I am curious what people think about what is going on. What do you think should be done to keep us safe and allow for people to immigrate to the US in a legal and orderly way?
 
It's bad enough trying to get the local Army Corps office to call me back about my parks/boat ramp permits... imagine the level of the service when the Govt shuts down?

(Actually, probably no change in level of service.... sadly)
 
I know we had some discussions in here back in July about the post-pandemic labor crisis but I'd like to add to that...

A couple observations I've had over the past month+:

Even with the end of the supplemental unemployment insurance, the labor supply here in Metro Detroit is still extraordinarily tight, especially among restaurants (at every end of the spectrum/price range). We did a brief survey of locally-owned restaurants in our contact list (a couple hundred) and nearly all of the respondents report they are still having trouble hiring and have had to adjust their hours of operation. Last week I decided to do a rare lunch at a bar with a couple of friends and the first three places we tried were take out only or not open at lunch at all. One Saturday evening a couple weeks ago I went to go pick up a take out order we placed for dinner and so many restaurants I passed had empty parking lots and were obviously closed... and this was on the most dense portion of Woodward Avenue, arguably the "Main Street" for Metro Detroit where thousands of cars pass by each hour and there are tens of thousands of workers and residents within a tight radius. Our workforce development folks say they are just now starting to hear from employers that maybe we were right when we had been telling them their wages were uncompetitive. :r:

All the school districts here have issues with labor shortages. It started with just bus drivers and other support staff but now it's spread to the teachers. People are retiring and districts are poaching from one another left and right. A couple of the districts had to go fully remote for a week or so because of sudden resignations/retirements of a handful of teachers all at once and there aren't enough people applying to immediately fill the spots and there also aren't enough subs to fill the spots either. There is still a shortage of bus drivers and a lot of the districts (ours included) have had to change up the bus schedules and routes after the start of the school year to combine routes and make due with fewer drivers. The bus my oldest rides has had a different driver every day this week and then today and yesterday they had to combine it with another route in the morning causing them to be about 20 minutes late to school.

Years ago, being a bus driver for a school district was a pretty good full time job with steady work and good benefits. Over the years though, more and more districts began to outsource the bus driving and then the bus companies started cutting the hours and ending benefits. These days, a lot of drivers only work a few hours early in the morning then have a big gap in the middle of the day before they clock back in for the afternoon routes. This means a lot of them aren't working enough hours to be considered full time and don't get benefits... not a very attractive job now, especially as the labor market has gotten tighter and tighter. There is a movement in a few districts here to bring the bus drivers directly back under the districts and make them full time employees again. Now a lot of the schools don't have anybody to work as noon-aids, classroom helpers, cafeteria helpers, etc. and they've realized they can utilize the bus drivers for those types of roles between 9:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. when many would otherwise not be driving.
 
WSU MUP Student said:
I know we had some discussions in here back in July about the post-pandemic labor crisis but I'd like to add to that...

A couple observations I've had over the past month+:

Even with the end of the supplemental unemployment insurance, the labor supply here in Metro Detroit is still extraordinarily tight, especially among restaurants (at every end of the spectrum/price range). We did a brief survey of locally-owned restaurants in our contact list (a couple hundred) and nearly all of the respondents report they are still having trouble hiring and have had to adjust their hours of operation. Last week I decided to do a rare lunch at a bar with a couple of friends and the first three places we tried were take out only or not open at lunch at all. One Saturday evening a couple weeks ago I went to go pick up a take out order we placed for dinner and so many restaurants I passed had empty parking lots and were obviously closed... and this was on the most dense portion of Woodward Avenue, arguably the "Main Street" for Metro Detroit where thousands of cars pass by each hour and there are tens of thousands of workers and residents within a tight radius. Our workforce development folks say they are just now starting to hear from employers that maybe we were right when we had been telling them their wages were uncompetitive. :r:

All the school districts here have issues with labor shortages. It started with just bus drivers and other support staff but now it's spread to the teachers. People are retiring and districts are poaching from one another left and right. A couple of the districts had to go fully remote for a week or so because of sudden resignations/retirements of a handful of teachers all at once and there aren't enough people applying to immediately fill the spots and there also aren't enough subs to fill the spots either. There is still a shortage of bus drivers and a lot of the districts (ours included) have had to change up the bus schedules and routes after the start of the school year to combine routes and make due with fewer drivers. The bus my oldest rides has had a different driver every day this week and then today and yesterday they had to combine it with another route in the morning causing them to be about 20 minutes late to school.

Years ago, being a bus driver for a school district was a pretty good full time job with steady work and good benefits. Over the years though, more and more districts began to outsource the bus driving and then the bus companies started cutting the hours and ending benefits. These days, a lot of drivers only work a few hours early in the morning then have a big gap in the middle of the day before they clock back in for the afternoon routes. This means a lot of them aren't working enough hours to be considered full time and don't get benefits... not a very attractive job now, especially as the labor market has gotten tighter and tighter. There is a movement in a few districts here to bring the bus drivers directly back under the districts and make them full time employees again. Now a lot of the schools don't have anybody to work as noon-aids, classroom helpers, cafeteria helpers, etc. and they've realized they can utilize the bus drivers for those types of roles between 9:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. when many would otherwise not be driving.
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I have had a couple discussions with local schools about the bus driver issue, and it seems to relate to a couple key issues (pay, benefits, etc.), but the biggest is that bus drivers in the area are directly competing with school cafeteria helpers and other non-teaching positions. If they provide higher pay to bus drivers they will see huge requests from the non-teaching unions. It is an interesting place schools are in right now, as the solutions are limited, and the problems just keep getting bigger.
 
Hink said:
I have had a couple discussions with local schools about the bus driver issue, and it seems to relate to a couple key issues (pay, benefits, etc.), but the biggest is that bus drivers in the area are directly competing with school cafeteria helpers and other non-teaching positions. If they provide higher pay to bus drivers they will see huge requests from the non-teaching unions. It is an interesting place schools are in right now, as the solutions are limited, and the problems just keep getting bigger.
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When I was in school, the cafeteria helpers WERE the bus drivers. Actually, a couple of teachers were bus drivers as well. However, I went to a small rural school.
 
WSU MUP Student said:
I know we had some discussions in here back in July about the post-pandemic labor crisis but I'd like to add to that...

A couple observations I've had over the past month+:

Even with the end of the supplemental unemployment insurance, the labor supply here in Metro Detroit is still extraordinarily tight, especially among restaurants (at every end of the spectrum/price range). We did a brief survey of locally-owned restaurants in our contact list (a couple hundred) and nearly all of the respondents report they are still having trouble hiring and have had to adjust their hours of operation. Last week I decided to do a rare lunch at a bar with a couple of friends and the first three places we tried were take out only or not open at lunch at all. One Saturday evening a couple weeks ago I went to go pick up a take out order we placed for dinner and so many restaurants I passed had empty parking lots and were obviously closed... and this was on the most dense portion of Woodward Avenue, arguably the "Main Street" for Metro Detroit where thousands of cars pass by each hour and there are tens of thousands of workers and residents within a tight radius. Our workforce development folks say they are just now starting to hear from employers that maybe we were right when we had been telling them their wages were uncompetitive. :r:

All the school districts here have issues with labor shortages. It started with just bus drivers and other support staff but now it's spread to the teachers. People are retiring and districts are poaching from one another left and right. A couple of the districts had to go fully remote for a week or so because of sudden resignations/retirements of a handful of teachers all at once and there aren't enough people applying to immediately fill the spots and there also aren't enough subs to fill the spots either. There is still a shortage of bus drivers and a lot of the districts (ours included) have had to change up the bus schedules and routes after the start of the school year to combine routes and make due with fewer drivers. The bus my oldest rides has had a different driver every day this week and then today and yesterday they had to combine it with another route in the morning causing them to be about 20 minutes late to school.

Years ago, being a bus driver for a school district was a pretty good full time job with steady work and good benefits. Over the years though, more and more districts began to outsource the bus driving and then the bus companies started cutting the hours and ending benefits. These days, a lot of drivers only work a few hours early in the morning then have a big gap in the middle of the day before they clock back in for the afternoon routes. This means a lot of them aren't working enough hours to be considered full time and don't get benefits... not a very attractive job now, especially as the labor market has gotten tighter and tighter. There is a movement in a few districts here to bring the bus drivers directly back under the districts and make them full time employees again. Now a lot of the schools don't have anybody to work as noon-aids, classroom helpers, cafeteria helpers, etc. and they've realized they can utilize the bus drivers for those types of roles between 9:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. when many would otherwise not be driving.
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There was a news report on it last week because we have both a labor shortage and high unemployment in our region. The report did not paint those looking for jobs in the most positive light as several of them indicated that while there are jobs available it is not the types of jobs they want. Another said that they don't want to go through the process to be qualified for some of them. Some employers are paying for the needed training to get people qualified.

I also think some of the COVID Vaccine requirements are causing issues. There are 4 teachers for my middle son's grade. Two of them were fired because they refuse to get vaccinated.




Finally, (and unrelated) the Republicans beat the Democrats 13-12 for the Annual Congressional Baseball Game. I wonder if there was any discussion about a budget approval to prevent the Federal Government from getting shut down tonight.
 
I don't post in this forum much, but I'm not sure this belongs in the pandemic thread.
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Best FB comment in response to this article:
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... & isn't there an unvaccinated gubernatorial candidate in Texas that is now hospitalized with COVID? Why yes, Allen West.
 
Big government is bad, unless big government is doing the things you like or forcing others to do something you agree with.
 
Hink said:
Big government is bad, unless big government is doing the things you like or forcing others to do something you agree with.
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I've never felt that big government is necessarily bad. In fact I feel that big government, particularly with enforcement chops, is needed to keep those who would flout the rules from doing so.
 
WSU MUP Student said:
I imagine this is trying to force a lawsuit against the Biden administration in opposition of their looming mandate for employers with 100 or more workers.
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Not really. It's just pandering to the most extreme segment of the base which is what Republicans see as the reason for Trump's success.

I've heard reports that the Abbott knows there is no way his declaration is legal or would stand up in the courts. It's more of a symbolic pronouncement.
 
JNA said:
WTH is going on in Georgia -

Fulton County fires two workers who allegedly shredded voter registration applications
www.gpb.org

Fulton County fires two workers who allegedly shredded voter registration applications

Fulton County elections officials have fired two workers who allegedly shredded 300 paper voter registration applications and are investigating the claims.
www.gpb.org www.gpb.org
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There is also no evidence that the shredding was done to target voters of one political party or another. There is no space on the registration form for voter political party preference, and Georgia does not have closed primaries where partisan intent must be declared.
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I think this part is interesting. Makes me wonder if it was incomitance or if there was a deeper sinister motive.


Could be worse, this is the news in North Carolina right now:
abc11.com

Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson calls LGBTQ books 'borderline child pornography'

Robinson continued his attack on LGBTQ literature in North Carolina schools, but clarified that he was "not calling any person filth; we're not calling anyone anything less than human; we're talking about inappropriate materials being presented to our children."
abc11.com abc11.com
 
michaelskis said:
I think this part is interesting. Makes me wonder if it was incomitance or if there was a deeper sinister motive.
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I was thinking it could be incompetence as well, but the fired employees could also have been looking at the addresses knowing that voters in neighborhood X are 90% more likely to vote for party Y.
 
WSU MUP Student said:
I was thinking it could be incompetence as well, but the fired employees could also have been looking at the addresses knowing that voters in neighborhood X are 90% more likely to vote for party Y.
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It's the Fulton County Election Office...you're safe assuming it was simply incompetence.

(I live in Fulton County, fwiw).
 
JNA said:
Bless his heart

Pro-Trump candidate suggests taking all boats out of the water to lower sea levels
www.independent.co.uk

Pro-Trump candidate wants to take all the boats out of the water to lower sea levels

‘When you take things out of bath water, the bath water decreases, does it not?’
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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Is that less dumb than, the same as, or dumber than Rep. Hank Johnson (D-GA) worrying about Guam capsizing?

www.cbsnews.com

Hank Johnson Worries Guam Could "Capsize" After Marine Buildup

Georgia Democratic Rep. Draws Ridicule for Using Interesting Language to Express Concerns about a Planned New Military Base on the U.S. Territory
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

I hate gotcha "politics"...bless your heart.
 
I read where GOP lawmakers were calling on Buttigieg to address the supply chain crisis. I am looking for a headline that reads "Can Buttigieg save Christmas?".
 
Hannity and Ingram are already doing the War on Christmas.

One had a graphic that said "The Biden that Stole Christmas" with Biden shown as the Grinch.

The other one had a graphic that said "The Grinch Who stole Christmas" with a regular picture of Biden next to it.

Guess this is the new GOP/Fox talking point.
 
The idea that a privately run port can be managed and forced to change by big government is odd. When did the GOP start forcing big government down the throat of the private sector?

Isn't it just capitalism that creates jobs and work? I mean if the port is busy, they create jobs and those jobs are just magically filled.

I read a story about how the privately managed section of the port are generally controlled by companies outside of the US, and the trucking companies don't have enough employees, etc. Nothing in there is the fault of the government. Biden convincing them to go 24/7 (if he even was part of that conversation), has little to nothing to do with the government at fault. At least big government is trying to do something positive for the situation, but it clearly isn't the fault of government.

I can just imagine what Trump would do in this situation. He would go to the port and have a parade and rally and blame the unions and say that they caused everything! Then tweet 50 things that don't make sense.

I'll take the effort of the current government to push what they can.
 
I am normally not a fan of the Royals, but this is so on point:
www.cnn.com

Prince William slams space tourism and says billionaires should focus on saving Earth

Prince William has criticized billionaires who are focused on space tourism, saying they should instead be investing more time and money in saving Earth.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com


In regards to the shipping issue, it is a problem, and I think this will just be the start of further issues yet to come. We have already been seeing bits of it with the construction industry here. I was looking to have some electrical work done at my house, and one electrician said that he could not take a job that small and that there is enough work to keep him and most others busy for the next 24 months... at which time he will retire. Truck drivers are in the same situation.
 
Our public works director bemoans at every meeting that materials (smart water meters, utility poles, transformers, etc.) are over a year out according to the manufacturers.
 
Spewing from the mouth -

"Wonderful to see Colin Powell, who made big mistakes on Iraq and famously, so-called weapons of mass destruction, be treated in death so beautifully by the Fake News Media," Trump said in a statement released Tuesday morning. "Hope that happens to me someday. He was a classic RINO, if even that, always being the first to attack other Republicans. He made plenty of mistakes, but anyway, may he rest in peace!"

"But anyway, may he rest in peace!" Yes, Trump really said that.

www.cnn.com

Analysis: Donald Trump (yet again) proves there's no bottom

Roughly 24 hours after the death of Colin Powell, Donald Trump proved, again, that he is utterly incapable of empathy, grace or even common decency.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

Will the real and fake media just stop giving him attention. PLEASE!
 
Planit said:
Spewing from the mouth -

"Wonderful to see Colin Powell, who made big mistakes on Iraq and famously, so-called weapons of mass destruction, be treated in death so beautifully by the Fake News Media," Trump said in a statement released Tuesday morning. "Hope that happens to me someday. He was a classic RINO, if even that, always being the first to attack other Republicans. He made plenty of mistakes, but anyway, may he rest in peace!"

"But anyway, may he rest in peace!" Yes, Trump really said that.

www.cnn.com

Analysis: Donald Trump (yet again) proves there's no bottom

Roughly 24 hours after the death of Colin Powell, Donald Trump proved, again, that he is utterly incapable of empathy, grace or even common decency.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

Will the real and fake media just stop giving him attention. PLEASE!
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That quote continually reminds me what I miss the least about Trump. The lack of policies, the bullying, the pointless talking, are annoying, but his manner of speaking is what I hated the most. That rhetoric is so toxic. His inability to put together a sentence. His constant double speak.

I appreciate a President that reads statements that have been prepared by writers who are trained and understand simple grammar and sentence structure, even if they aren't his/her own thoughts or ideas.
 
‘Down the rabbit hole’: Arizona GOP goes full fringe
www.politico.com

‘Down the rabbit hole’: Arizona GOP goes full fringe

Republicans have reacted to the state’s leftward drift by stocking the 2022 ballot with conspiracy theorists and extremists.
www.politico.com www.politico.com

“The goalposts keep moving,” said Bill Gates, a Republican Maricopa County supervisor.
“It used to be that we got into genuine debates about whether you’re more of a conservative or a moderate. We used to debate over ideology.
And now it is how far you can go down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories.
And if you’re unwilling to do it, it doesn’t matter if you’re pro-life, if you’ve never voted for a tax increase.
It doesn’t matter.
It’s all about going deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole, unfortunately.”
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A few months back, I kept hearing that "as soon as Biden quits giving money to people, they'll go back to work, too many people are just sitting around getting all this money and not having to work."

I said to one of those people that I heard there was a much higher than usual retirement rate happening during the pandemic - a lot of people that were thinking of retiring in the next few years went ahead and pulled the trigger. Of course I was told I was full of $h!t.

Well now that the Federal Government is not supplementing unemployment, guess what happened? There are still a boat load of jobs available with no one to fill them. Mrs. P still can't find people for the multiple positions their company has open.
 
Planit said:
A few months back, I kept hearing that "as soon as Biden quits giving money to people, they'll go back to work, too many people are just sitting around getting all this money and not having to work."

I said to one of those people that I heard there was a much higher than usual retirement rate happening during the pandemic - a lot of people that were thinking of retiring in the next few years went ahead and pulled the trigger. Of course I was told I was full of $h!t.

Well now that the Federal Government is not supplementing unemployment, guess what happened? There are still a boat load of jobs available with no one to fill them. Mrs. P still can't find people for the multiple positions their company has open.
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Yes and no. Many of the restaurants and entry level retail in the area are now fully staffed.

However, there are a lot of industries that are having people retire or switch to other professions. Teachers, Police, Fire, Truck Drivers, Carpenters, Trades Professionals, Nurses, Doctors, Engineers, Forester and Arborists, are all in high demand right now. All but one of the teachers in my middle son's grade have been poached by other school districts since the school year started. There have been 5 police officers in our area that have switched careers due to the stress of the job and the political environment. Electricians and Plumbers are in short supply because people are not interested in going into those professions. Same goes for Truck Drivers.
 
Is this funny ?

Trump's Truth Social Hacked Within Hours of Announcement
www.newsweek.com

Trump's Truth Social Hacked Within Hours of Announcement

The former president announced he is launching a new social media platform that will soft launch in November, before a planned nationwide rollout in early 2022.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

Trump’s new social media site collapses after trolls flood it before launch
www.dailydot.com

Trump's new social media site collapses after trolls flood it before launch

Trolls posting poop on pigs' balls helped bring down his new free speech site within hours of debut
www.dailydot.com www.dailydot.com

Trump’s New Free Speech App Prohibits Users From Making Fun of It
www.rollingstone.com

Trump's New Free Speech App Prohibits Users From Making Fun of It

Former President Trump's new social media app, Truth Social, prohibits users from disparaging the app.
www.rollingstone.com www.rollingstone.com
 
I have so many mixed thoughts on the student loan situation that I have to stop thinking about. I'm arguing with myself and I'm not sure which side is unarmed in this fight.

:confused: :think:
 
MD Planner said:
I have so many mixed thoughts on the student loan situation that I have to stop thinking about. I'm arguing with myself and I'm not sure which side is unarmed in this fight.

:confused: :think:
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For me, I'm glad we paid my remainder last year after being told the previous year by the program that I was ineligible for forgiveness.

Maybe I would have been eligible now, but its under the bridge now, so...on to things that are present decisions to be made.
 
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MD Planner said:
I have so many mixed thoughts on the student loan situation that I have to stop thinking about. I'm arguing with myself and I'm not sure which side is unarmed in this fight.

:confused: :think:
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Yea, this is a position that doesn't mesh with a lot of my other positions, as I am adamantly against the government paying off student debt. I like the concept of free trade college or reduced college based on need, but people signed up for the loans and they should pay them back.

I also support funding for finance and budgeting in high school, as that would help a lot more kids realize college isn't for them. It is also REALLY hard to justify many degrees in college anymore, so going to get a Liberal Arts degree for the 4 years of fun, not using it or needing it for your job, than being mad you have to pay back that money, seems unrealistic / unfair to me.

We paid back our loans, so I have no real horse in this race, but my kids will be screwed as the current FAFSA system is insanely inadequate at getting at financial need.
 
Hink said:
Yea, this is a position that doesn't mesh with a lot of my other positions, as I am adamantly against the government paying off student debt. I like the concept of free trade college or reduced college based on need, but people signed up for the loans and they should pay them back.

I also support funding for finance and budgeting in high school, as that would help a lot more kids realize college isn't for them. It is also REALLY hard to justify many degrees in college anymore, so going to get a Liberal Arts degree for the 4 years of fun, not using it or needing it for your job, than being mad you have to pay back that money, seems unrealistic / unfair to me.

We paid back our loans, so I have no real horse in this race, but my kids will be screwed as the current FAFSA system is insanely inadequate at getting at financial need.
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I 100% agree with everything you just said.

I think that the major university structure is broken when it comes to how much they charge vs how well they educate and prepare the majority of people for the work force. As I have also noted in the past, I think we as a society need to stop looking down upon those who go to trade schools vs those who go college. Every year I donate to https://www.mikeroweworks.org/ (mikeroweWORKS Foundation) because I think that the work he is doing to help kids afford trade schools is important to our long term wellbeing as a society. I see it every day in the local construction trades as more and more qualified people are retiring and unqualified people are showing up to fill the gaps. Our inspectors tell me horror stories of some of the crap they come across.
 
Bubba said:
Is that less dumb than, the same as, or dumber than Rep. Hank Johnson (D-GA) worrying about Guam capsizing?

www.cbsnews.com

Hank Johnson Worries Guam Could "Capsize" After Marine Buildup

Georgia Democratic Rep. Draws Ridicule for Using Interesting Language to Express Concerns about a Planned New Military Base on the U.S. Territory
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

I hate gotcha "politics"...bless your heart.
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The local paper used to have a column every election season - still wish that meant we could hunt them. It pointed out the stupid ideas my state politicians had and why we should avoid voting for them. Things like Guam capsizing, taking out boats, etc. I wish they still ran those articles. I strongly believe people need to be reminded that your idea is stupid and should never be repeated again. We all said/say stupid things, but when someone responds how dumb it is we stop and think about repeating it a second time.
 
VIDEO: Former Trump lawyer says his coup plan would have worked if it wasn't for Mike Pence
www.salon.com

Trump lawyer says coup plan would have worked if it wasn't for Pence

Eastman blamed Pence, "an establishment guy,' for not following through with his coup plan
www.salon.com www.salon.com

New video of pro-Trump lawyer is 'completely damning': legal expert
www.rawstory.com

New video of pro-Trump lawyer is 'completely damning': legal expert

Conservative Claremont Institute lawyer John Eastman made an "incredibly damning" admission in a new video, a former federal prosecutor explained on CNN on Wednesday."The House select committee investigating the U.S. Capitol insurrection expected to hand down another subpoena today, this time...
www.rawstory.com www.rawstory.com
 
Do any of you have big elections tomorrow. We have a significant one. Our current Mayor is not running for reelection. When you add up his time on the planning board for a couple years, then Council, and then as Mayor, he has been involved for almost 50 years and almost 25 as Mayor.

By the end of the night tomorrow, he will know who his successor will be.
 
michaelskis said:
Do any of you have big elections tomorrow. We have a significant one. Our current Mayor is not running for reelection. When you add up his time on the planning board for a couple years, then Council, and then as Mayor, he has been involved for almost 50 years and almost 25 as Mayor.

By the end of the night tomorrow, he will know who his successor will be.
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Is the Mayor a strong mayor (Mayor/Council org) or a weak Mayor (Council/City Manager org)?

Good luck.
 
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