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NEVERENDING ♾️ The NEVERENDING Beer Thread

I have upgraded my domestic beer preference to MILLER LITE. Haven’t had Natty for about a year. Any ways here is an update on TOP BEER BRANDS SOLD IN AMERICA for 2005-2006.:-b:b:

1. Bud Light $1.350 Billion 15.4%
2. Budweiser $777 Million 8.8%
3. Miller Lite $712 Million 8.1%
4. Coors Light $606 Million 6.9%
5. Corona Extra $471 Million 5.5%

Coors Light knock Natty to 5th and then Corona Extra took it out of the top 5!

(Source: Information Resources, Inc)

Quantity has absolutely nothing to do with quality. :victory: That's all I have to say about lists like this. It's like comparing McDonald's to Ruth's Chris, Wal-Mart to hand made, etc. etc. Damn, this country is embarrassing sometimes.... :gagged:
 
Quantity has absolutely nothing to do with quality. :victory: That's all I have to say about lists like this. It's like comparing McDonald's to Ruth's Chris, Wal-Mart to hand made, etc. etc. Damn, this country is embarrassing sometimes.... :gagged:

Don't make me bust out the Plains Palates of America Thread....

Nothing was better this weekend than drinking Stella Artios on tap with some great pizza. :p Saturday was a good day... come to think of it, I drank a lot of beer this past weekend. :-D
 
Don't make me bust out the Plains Palates of America Thread....

Nothing was better this weekend than drinking Stella Artios on tap with some great pizza. :p Saturday was a good day... come to think of it, I drank a lot of beer this past weekend. :-D

Reminds me of my first experience with Stella.....was on an Air France flight to Mumbai via Paris. It was full of loud, obnoxious people and squealing children. The Stella was free....and it was good :D
 
Currently drinking: Holzar-Bier (Bavarian dunkel lager, Hirschbrau/Privatbrauerei Hoss, Germany)

* Purchased at Lina's, Painesville OH. 500ml Grolsch-style bottle; gotta save it for future homebrewing.
* Label featuring a man chopping a tree, with Fraktur lettering. For some reason, Fraktur sends a message that says "really, really German", and thus "really, really good." It also says "I must invade a small Eastern European country SCHNELL!"
* Light brown color. Not much of a head.
* Malty but light-ish taste: definitely German and "Reinheitsgeboty", but different than a typical German lager. Not very complex. Creamy feel. Very quaffable.

Verdict: a good beer to have outdoors when the temperature is in the high 60s.

On a related note: I hate to say this, but I've got too many Belgian 750s in the fridge. The top shelf is almost completely with Belgians, with some American specialty bombers (Stone, Hebrew, Two Brothers, Three Floyds) and a Unibroue Don de Dieu in the mix.. If someone organizes a fall Alefest in Michigan, I'll bring a bunch and make some room. I really need to get away again. (Maybe I'll bring some rauchbiers for The Maister, too.)
 
* Malty but light-ish taste: definitely German and "Reinheitsgeboty"
When I first read this I thought it said "Rheinheitsgebooty!!! Hmmm I think we may expect to see a new word-du-jour emerging in many future beer reviews! 'Purity' never looked so impure before! Or better yet new vistas could open up in the realm of office slang.....
"When the whistle blows at 5:01 I'll be off to go get me some Rheinheitsgebooty."
or
"So'd you score some Rheinheitsgebooty last night?"
or
"Hey, I 'm just here for the Rheinheitsgebooty."
 
Yesterday, home recovering from a medical 'procedure', I made a batch of my patented, secret "Hale Bop Ale" - 3 lb Amber Malt, 3 lb Light Malt, 2 oz cascade hops, 5 gal water.







Oops I just gave out the recipie
 
I've never been a beer connoisseur, frankly. The free Sudsweiser this weekend was good enough, and after *coughgrumblesputtercough* of them, they all taste alike, and I feel the same anyway.
 
I've never been a beer connoisseur, frankly. The free Sudsweiser this weekend was good enough, and after *coughgrumblesputtercough* of them, they all taste alike, and I feel the same anyway.

Perhaps you have been drinking the wrong beer? I don't think I've ever had a Budweiser, ever.
 
New Holland Brewery has outdone itself again. If you consider yourself any sort of fermented malt beverage maven you owe it to yourself to try their Lucid Kolsch-style! Not overly hopped, and a wonderfully fresh aftertaste.

Got a six at Warehouse Beverage, but I've yet to crack one open. Based on the growing number of Kolsch beers I'm seeing on store shelves, I think it's going to be the next popular rediscovered style, similar to the boom in wheats in the mid 1990s, and Belgian-style whites and ales in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Any of you think there are other esoteric styles of beer which could be "rediscovered" and see popularity among a larger audience? I'd like to see more altbiers; they have the heavy hoppiness that is the trademark of beers from Three Floyds and Victory, two craft breweries who are enjoyng growing popularity. I also see rauchbiers becoming a little but more common in the future; certainly not widespread, but not as rare as they are now.


A side note .. gotta' be careful from now on at Lina's in Painesville. They have a HUGE beer selection for what looks like a hole-in-the-wall cigs-and-lottery store in a very blue-collar town, all refrigerated too (!), with a lot of Belgians, Eastern Europeans and Germans that are missing from the shevves at Warehouse Beverage. However, it seems like a lot of their stock is out-of-date. I saw H.C. Berger bombers in the coolers; a Fort Collins brewery that closed in 2002. For old time's sake, I bought a bottle of Mountain Kolsch. It poured with chunks. After a swig, I used it to water my plants.

Warehouse Beverage in South Euclid may not have all their beers refrigerated, but their stock is fresh, and their massive selection of US craft beers counters the depth of imports at Lina's.
 
Enjoyed a full bottle of La Folie as well as a 6 of Harp in celebration of my friend's birthday last night.
 
The Milk Stout, Brown Ale and Porter from Duck-Rabbitt Brewery showed up on the grocery store shelves last month...that was a big surprise!

They specialize in dark beers and their Russian Imperial Stout is most execellent.
 
Just back from a microbrew "mecca", Victoria BC, and have to report that unless you like overly hoppy/sour dark ales there is not much worth drinking there.

Of the 20 different microbrews I drank, only 3 where worth drinking and just barely.

Vancouver Island Brewery - Pipers Pale ale
Phillips - Blue Truck
Lighthouse Brewing Company - Lighthouse Lager
 
I haven't posted in this thread in a while, but I'd love to report that my favorite sports bar here in the Appleton, WI area (The Bar of the Avenue in downtown Appleton) has a wonderful local microbrew on its taps - Stone Cellar pale ale - and if you get there between 16:00 and 19:00 on weekdays, you get two glasses when you buy one and can take until 21:00 to drink them at the sidewalk patio tables.

Also, about a block away, a place owned and operated by a family of immigrant Germans ('Old Bavarian') has been doing a great business selling half-liter mugs of Spaten Optimator dopple bock. EXCELLENT STUFF!

:b::-D:b:

Mike
 
Got a six at Warehouse Beverage, but I've yet to crack one open. Based on the growing number of Kolsch beers I'm seeing on store shelves, I think it's going to be the next popular rediscovered style, similar to the boom in wheats in the mid 1990s, and Belgian-style whites and ales in the late 1990s and early 2000s..
I would not at all be surprised if the kolsch style beers became the Next New Hot Thing. They have a very accessible flavor and composition. Now that the craft-brew movement is entering its adolescence I think we'll find more appreciation for styles that evoke subtlety, And Kolsch beers are neither loud nor flashy.
 
I would not at all be surprised if the kolsch style beers became the Next New Hot Thing. They have a very accessible flavor and composition. Now that the craft-brew movement is entering its adolescence I think we'll find more appreciation for styles that evoke subtlety, And Kolsch beers are neither loud nor flashy.

I think you are right because when I went to the local beer/wine store I noticed a lot of Kolsch beers on prominent display. I've always liked drinking it from my intro to it through McMenamin's Firefly Kolsch which is a summer seasonal they run in the pubs.
 
Yesterday evening I tried Goose Island (the IPA), a micro-brew out of Illinois. Nice. V. nice. :)
 
I see a couple of problems with kolsch being the next big style. 1) They tend to be summer seasonals. Not to say that they wouldn't or couldn't be carried on through the year, but drinking a kolsch while it's hovering at zero degrees just doesn't seem right. 2) They are not that easy to brew well. Some brewers can brew them to be passable to the general public as a step up form a typical lager, but there are relatively few American brewers or German brewers that export to the states that brew them exceptionally well to satisfy the beer geek crowd.

Just a couple of thoughts.

We've had the wheat/hefe revival. IPAs and Double IPAs are still a favorite but pretty played out now. Barrel Aged beers have reached the point of ridiculousness. "Can I get a Double Bourbon Barrel Aged Imperial American Amber?" WTF??

I think the Belgians have a real strong chance of coming on strong in America. Stronger than they already are. I think more breweries are going to start corking 750 ml bottles and this will encourage the "on-the-fence-geek" to try some of the Belgian stuff that seems too expensive. Compare a nice $8 bottle of beer to an $8 bottle of wine recently? No comparison in quality! There are some true gems out there waiting to be discovered. Victory V10...Kuhnnen (sp?)...Jolly Pumpkin...La Folie from New Belgium...
 
Michgan Belgian's

I agree with the Belgian trend, a couple of good Michigan options:

Dragonmead Final Absolution Belgian Style Trippel

Dragonmead's signature product! This is the ultimate Belgian style. The very high gravity of this beer is balanced by the smoothness of its finish. Banana and Clove aromas come from the Belgian yeast strain combining with the generous dose of Belgian Candi Sugar. The Saaz hops help to give this beer a balanced bitterness with no noticeable hop aroma. O.G. 1.085, ABV 8.5%

Michigan Brewing Company has Celis Beer, including White, Grand Cru, Pale Bock & Rasberry.

Celis Beers were developed by internationally renowned Belgian Brewmaster Pierre Celis. In the late 20th century, Pierre, who had spent his life brewing in his native Hoegaarden, Belgium, opened a brewery in Austin, Texas and brought Celis to America. Today, with commitment from Michigan Brewing Company, an award winning craft brewery, Celis Beers are once again being poured by happy connoisseurs.

We believe these beers reflect the authenticity and natural flavors that were first used by Pierre in Belgium six decades ago. And, during his recent stay at MBC, Pierre certainly agreed.

Dark Horse Brewing, Sapient Trip Ale

We brewed this beer with a Trappist yeast strain so it is very traditional. The flavors are incredibly complex with notes of mild fruit and finishes with a bit of clove. Although this beer is higher in alcohol it is very smooth and finishes dry on the pallet.
ABV 8.5%
Availability: Spring/Summer Seasonal
 
Some excellent advice that I saw on a cigar forum that is quite applicable to beer. Of course, replace "cigar" with "beer", and "snoke" with "drink".

Smoke a cigar that has been reviewed and try to follow along with the reviewer. You'll be amazed at how smoking along with someone else's notes will help you pick up flavors that you couldn't put your finger on.
 
Some excellent advice that I saw on a cigar forum that is quite applicable to beer. Of course, replace "cigar" with "beer", and "snoke" with "drink".

Snoking....a new past time?
 
Ms. jmac and I spent a night in the woods this weekend. We rediscovered that Old Chub, the Scottish Ale from Oskar Blues, is a great backpacking beer. Tasty... in cans... and the ABV of 8.0% means you can bring fewer of them and keep the pack weight down. :)

This may have come up before, but does anyone else have favorite backcountry brews?
 
Great Taste of the Midwest

I am kinda surprised that this is the first post mentioning Great Taste of the Midwest. It was over this last weekend in Madison. Nearly 500 microbrewed beers from 100+ breweries in the Midwest. Best $30 I have spent this year. My homebrew club does a bus trip every year. Three Floyd's had 2 different tappings of Dark Lord Russian Imperial Stout, too. Google it, AWESOME beer.
 
Whilst in St. Pete, FL this past week, I tried Pipers Pale Ale from Dunedin Brewery. It was very good with a nice hoppy flavor (not one that is too overpowering).

If you're in the Tampa Bay area, try it.


jmac - I second your comments on 'Old Chub' - great beer and in a can...
 
RE: Old Chub/ Oskar Blues Brewery

Good to see a somewhat "local" brewery's products being enjoy in such distant locales.
Dale's Pale Ale was a staple among fellow beer snobs at my wedding. :)

Tried a Sam Adams Light this weekend. <meh> Not too good and not too bad. Probably won't buy this again.
 
Dale's Pale Ale has become my favorite beer to tote along on vacation.

Speaking of Colorado brews, I tried Great Divide's Denver Pale Ale last weekend - I was underwhelmed.
 
Thanks guys... you have convinced me. I'll put some Dale's Pale into the rotation and see if it is as good as I remember.

Another of my favorite canned beers is Stoudt's Pikeland Pils. Their distribution is pretty limited though - Mid-Atlantic states with Ohio, Michigan, Georgia, and California thrown in as well. Try it if you see it... tell the bartender jmac sent you and enjoy the puzzled look you receive. :D
 
Another of my favorite canned beers is Stoudt's Pikeland Pils. Their distribution is pretty limited though - Mid-Atlantic states with Ohio, Michigan, Georgia, and California thrown in as well.

The distribution of Stoudt's in Georgia is strange - some of their brews (like the ESB and the Pale Ale) are carried by most decent vendors, but the Pils and the Helles are darn near impossible to find.
 
Speaking of Colorado brews, I tried Great Divide's Denver Pale Ale last weekend - I was underwhelmed.

As a fan of the Mile High City and of Pale Ales... I file D.P.A. under "meh".

Not too impressed...:-|
 
Dale's Pale Ale has become my favorite beer to tote along on vacation.

Speaking of Colorado brews, I tried Great Divide's Denver Pale Ale last weekend - I was underwhelmed.

I tend to avoid the Great Divide regular 6 pack lineups. But the bombers: Hercules, Old Ruffian, Yeti are awesome. I understand that much of the country is now getting these in either 4 or 6 packs and those would be well worthwhile. Titan is borderline for me, but will do in a pinch.

Camping beers, well backpacking beers, definitely go with the Dale's and Old Chub. Don't forget about Gordon for the hopheads ($10/ four pack and 10% Double IPA in cans!!) For those in Colorado and the Four Corners area, SKA does a really nice ESB in cans too.

Car camping is another story altogether as a group of us just rolled through some amazing beers this last weekend outside of Ouray. It's a good sign when 6 people show up with 3 large coolers of just beers, most of which are not available in Colorado!! Jolly Pumpkin impressed (which recently became available here), Founder's Deca...even at $19 was worthwhile and will age superbly, Dark Lord is always tasty, Mikkeller Beer Geek Breakfast coffee stout was nice with bacon and eggs in the morning and then there were way too many others to remember.
 
The Random Beer Name Generator

With a .ca domain name, appropriately. Generates tubby bearded guy-style microbrewery and brewpub beer names. Here's a few it made for me.

Firkin Road Rage Hefeweizen
Winston Churchill's Salty Yellow Sharks With Frickin Laser Beams Tied To Their Heads Dopplebock
Curious Cinco de Mayo Brown Russian Imperial Stout
Bob and Doug McKenzie's Cracklicious Black Jellyfish Pale Ale
Flying Full Moon Yellow Oud Bruin
Mothra's Bald Black Sheep Porter
Hairy Zen Bock
Stumbling Ewok Gueuze
Wicked Maerzen
Flying Llama Stout
Phat Pablo Picasso Rauchbier
 
Interesting article on Belgian Ales appropriate for summer....might have to hunt some of these down. LINK
 
Miller Brewing and MolsonCoors appeared to have merged today in order to better compete in the US market against MacroGiant Anheiser Busch.

NEW YORK (AP) - The makers of Coors and Miller Lite plan to combine their U.S. brewing operations in an effort to compete better against industry leader Anheuser-Busch.
The joint venture announced Tuesday will be known as MillerCoors and will have responsibility for selling brands including Miller Lite, Miller Genuine Draft, Coors, Coors Light and Molson Canadian in the U.S.
MillerCoors Story

What does this mean for the Macro industry and does it help or hinder the sales of micro and craft brews?
 
Went to a small Oktoberfest party given by one of my fellow planning students last night and we had a great time eating German fare and drinking all sorts of beer outdoors on a crisp fall evening.

The two notable standouts for me were:

Ramstein Classic Wheat from Highpoint Brewing Co. I am a great lover of wheat beers in general but this was unusual in that it was a dark wheat. Nice and malty with a very clean finish.

Ayinger Oktoberfest Marzen from Brauerei Aying in Germany. This had a lovely orangey-amber color with a frothy head, a bit sweet but the hops come through to balance it out.
 
My Goodness, My Guinness

I ran across this tidbit of information. I'll be running to the store this evening to buy some "health" -

Studies show that Guinness can be beneficial to the heart. Researchers found that antioxidant compounds in Guinness, similar to those found in certain fruits and vegetables are responsible for health benefits because they slow down the deposit of harmful cholesterol on the artery walls.

Guinness only contains 198 calories per imperial pint (20 fl oz UK), fewer than an equal-sized serving of skimmed milk or orange juice and most other non-light beers.
 

I missed this in August....a couple good ones I saw:

L. Ron Hubbard's Retarded Yellow Sharks With Frickin Laser Beams Tied To Their Heads Tripel
The Emu Formerly Known As Mothra's Poisonous Lambic
Transgendered Old Ale
Craptacular Ancient Maerzen
Ace Ventura and Gary Coleman's Super Duper Brown Ale

:D
 
Hops shortage = craft beer crisis?

http://tinyurl.com/2mjo7f

I have been hearing rumors of a hops crisis. Some of the small breweries around here are feeling the crunch and aren't sure if they will be able to find enough hops to finish the year. This could really be serious for the little guys! It seems that the big breweries are buying what hops there are for 3 and 4 times the normal price. I guess that means we will all be paying more for our beloved brew as time goes on. There is also the possibility that I will miss out on some of my favorite seasonal beers.

SCARY.
 
Last night was opaque beer night for me, nothing that I could see through...

Started off with Saranac Black Forest, followed by:
Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout
Some Oatmeal Stout out of Northern California (Anderville Valley?)
Guiness x 3

capped it off with some Canadian Club:)
 
Has anyone tried Schlenkerla Smokebeer www.smokebeer.com
We had someone bring us two bottles. We shared the first, sipped it at room temp. Wonderful smoke flavor. Everyone that took a sip described it differently.

We need to go and see if we can even get more.
 
The Duck-Rabbit Craft Brewery is supposed to start distribution in Georgia next year...any recommendations?
 
The Duck-Rabbit Craft Brewery is supposed to start distribution in Georgia next year...any recommendations?
I bought a sixer of their milk stout while visiting NC last spring. It was really good. I am jealous of your good fortune. :D
 
The Duck-Rabbit Craft Brewery is supposed to start distribution in Georgia next year...any recommendations?

Milk Stout is very good!.
Porter is said to be good, alothoug I'm not a fan of porters.
In their Brown ale think of a hoppy Newcastle

Their higher alcohol specialty brews include the Rabid Duck Russian Imperial Stout,and the Wee Heavy Scotch Ale. Both were excellent when we tasted them at the Hickory Hops festival, although I haven't seen them in distribution.

Just buy it and you won't be dissappointed. In fact I bought a six of the Milk Stout and a six of Oskar Blue Old Chub last night:-D
 
I'm kinda split on how I feel about Leinenkugel's apple spice beer - on the one hand the apple spice component is pleasingly full but OTOH it comes off as being somewhat un-beerlike. Anyone else tried it yet?
 
I'm kinda split on how I feel about Leinenkugel's apple spice beer - on the one hand the apple spice component is pleasingly full but OTOH it comes off as being somewhat un-beerlike. Anyone else tried it yet?

I picked up a sixer of that for Mrs. Bubba - I'll post her opinion of it whenever she gets around to actually drinking one...
 
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