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NEVERENDING ♾️ The NEVERENDING Beer Thread

Drank "The Beast Grand Cru" from Avery Brewing Co. last night. Sipping (yes, that's right sip - it's 16.8% ABV!!!) this Beligian strong dark ale is as close as many will come to having a religious experience. This is not a beer one swills with one's friends watching football games. No, when drinking this ale one should ideally be wearing formal attire, seated on a victorian era chair and intersperse sips by repeatedly holding the snifter up to the light and swirling it in the most pretentious manner possible.
 
USA Today Article:What qualifies as craft beer?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...s-craft-beer-depends-on-whom-you-ask/1566338/

HIGHLIGHTS:
An American craft brewer, defined by the Brewers Association, has an annual production of 6 million barrels of beer or less, and no more than 25% of the craft brewery is owned or controlled by an alcoholic beverage industry member that is not a craft brewer. That definition has drawn a hard "us vs. them" line,

If a large brewer has a controlling share of a smaller producing brewery, the brewer is, by definition, not craft, according to the association. The group deems products produced by such breweries as "crafty" beers because they're not labeled as products of large breweries.
 
Six years ago the EDC I worked for did a loan for a microbrew. It was something we did not publicize for fear of a backlash. The brewery was about to be foreclosed on so the EDC bought out the position to save the jobs and keep the brewery in the downtown. Now the place is expanding and adding a new location.

Now IEDC has developed a webinar on microbrews and economic development.
 
Does anyone get sick from drinking IPAs or double IPAs? They are my favorite types of beer because of the taste, but as of late I've been noticing that every single time I have one (particularly locally made double IPAs), I get terribly sick to my stomach. Is there something chemically going on here?
 
Does anyone get sick from drinking IPAs or double IPAs? They are my favorite types of beer because of the taste, but as of late I've been noticing that every single time I have one (particularly locally made double IPAs), I get terribly sick to my stomach. Is there something chemically going on here?

Man that sux. Those are my favorites too.

It might have something to do with the extra amount of hops or higher alcohol content. Does your insides feel worse the ABV higher is in the beer? Drink a amber/red or a stout and see if you notice a difference.
 
Right now I've got a wealth of beer in the fridge. I've got Harp and Guinness leftover from St. Patty's day (the planned get-together got called off), but also have an unopened 12 of Fat Tire, and a handful of assorted singles including: Dragon's Milk, Founder's Red Rye, Short's Snow Wheat, and a 22 of Gennesee Cream Ale. I plan to work on my six-pack abs this weekend for sure.:D
 
My nephew brought me a 4-pack of Swamp Ape - a 10% abv IPA from Florida Brewing Company - when he came back from south FLA. He said it was difficult to find. Thats some good stuff, but not an everyday pint for sure.
 
I've got Harp and Guinness leftover from St. Patty's day (the planned get-together got called off), but also have an unopened 12 of Fat Tire, and a handful of assorted singles including: Dragon's Milk, Founder's Red Rye, Short's Snow Wheat, and a 22 of Gennesee Cream Ale.
Do you really have a 22 of Genny or are you just trying to keep us on our toes?:-o
 
Do you really have a 22 of Genny or are you just trying to keep us on our toes?:-o

Really do! It recently became available to MI beer distributors and I make a point to pick some up every now and then when I'm in the mood for a 'grandfather' beer.
 
Bought a six pack of "Big Flats 1901" this week, it was $3.19, just because I could.
 
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Really do! It recently became available to MI beer distributors and I make a point to pick some up every now and then when I'm in the mood for a 'grandfather' beer.
I love how you pick it up in the 22 oz. cans. Pretty sure old grandpa didn't roll like that;)

If I'm feeling in the mood for a grandpa/lawnmower type of beer it is usually PBR.
 
How Beer Gave Us Civilization

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/opinion/sunday/how-beer-gave-us-civilization.html?_r=0


But then, these same lifesaving social instincts didn’t readily lend themselves to exploration, artistic expression, romance, inventiveness and experimentation — the other human drives that make for a vibrant civilization.

To free up those, we needed something that would suppress the rigid social codes that kept our clans safe and alive. We needed something that, on occasion, would let us break free from our biological herd imperative — or at least let us suppress our angst when we did.

We needed beer.
 
Oberon is starting to make appearances again - a sign of spring!

It's probably disloyal for me to say this....but I fail to see what's so great about Oberon. I guess I don't understand what the legions of rabid fans of this brew see in it.
 
It's probably disloyal for me to say this....but I fail to see what's so great about Oberon. I guess I don't understand what the legions of rabid fans of this brew see in it.

Bells has so many other beers that are better.

Oberon has a cult following that grew out of the college crowd. I think people also gear up for it because it's a sign that warmer weather is around the corner.
 
It's probably disloyal for me to say this....but I fail to see what's so great about Oberon. I guess I don't understand what the legions of rabid fans of this brew see in it.

There are definitely beers I like better, but those blue six-packs are a sign that summer is just around the corner. Its a good lighter summer beer for me.
 
Urban Farming just for beer

'Beer geeks' hope hops farm taps microbrew trend
http://www.courierpress.com/news/2013/apr/17/beer-geeks-hope-hops-farm-taps-microbrew-trend/

A batch of hops fetches $10 to $30 per pound — the volume in which they're typically sold. Hops, about the size of a pine cone, can be purchased either whole or in pellet form from a grinding process that makes brewing more efficient. A pound equals 200 to 300 cones, depending on type.

City planners seem more than pleased with their idea to bring a bit of urban farming to the largely industrial area.
 
Picked up some Moose Drool Brown Ale (Big Sky Brewing Co) over the weekend. It's not at our usual place, but we were across town and stopped by a large beer/wine/specialty food store and found it. We look for it because after discovering it in Montana, we both think it's worth searching for. Yum!!

Then last night I stopped at Central Market and found Brush Tail Farmhouse Saison ale from the same brewing co. Since it has limited availability, I picked some up to try. While tasty, it's not as flat-out yummy as the Moose Drool.

Is it weird to think of a beer as yummy?
 
Must be some changes have occurred with the area distributors, all of a sudden several of the grocery stores have begun to carry a whole bunch of new beers, many of which I've never even heard of before. I have got a lot of drinking to do in the coming weeks.
 
I love to try seasonal brews. Yesterday I picked up Blue Moon Agave Nectar Ale. Since today was a long one (Commission day), I sampled a cold one first thing.

It's pretty . . . average. Nothing spectacular, but still satisfying. One thumb up.
 
I love to try seasonal brews. Yesterday I picked up Blue Moon Agave Nectar Ale. Since today was a long one (Commission day), I sampled a cold one first thing.

It's pretty . . . average. Nothing spectacular, but still satisfying. One thumb up.

I tried it too...it was just ok.
 
I love to try seasonal brews. Yesterday I picked up Blue Moon Agave Nectar Ale. Since today was a long one (Commission day), I sampled a cold one first thing...

I don't know if it's seasonal or not, but this weekend when we finally had some good weather I was sitting out on my front porch after spending the day working in the yard and really wanted a St. Arnie's Fancy Lawnower.
 
Bulgarian Beer

I currently live in Bulgaria, where the booze is cheap. A 1.5 liter bottle of Zagorka will set you back 2 leva, which is about $1.20.

I am currently enjoying some Zagorka in which they infused grapefruit. It is a whole 2% alchohol.

Here's a Bulgarian beer ad.
 
Last year a Granite City Food & Brewery opened up in our area and I've been wanting to check it out. My wife and I finally made it there Saturday night and I have to say that the beer was pretty awful. I tried their IPA and their lager and neither were noteworthy. The lager was particularly bad. It was way too creamy and nutty for a lager. :victory:

However, the food there was pretty darn good and the waiter comped us some deserts to make up for the crappy lager.
 
Last year a Granite City Food & Brewery opened up in our area and I've been wanting to check it out. My wife and I finally made it there Saturday night and I have to say that the beer was pretty awful. I tried their IPA and their lager and neither were noteworthy. The lager was particularly bad. It was way too creamy and nutty for a lager. :victory:

However, the food there was pretty darn good and the waiter comped us some deserts to make up for the crappy lager.

I drove by there yesterday and was wondering about that place. Now I'm not sure if I don't want to go because of the beer, or I do want to go because of the food. Decisions, decision.
 
I drove by there yesterday and was wondering about that place. Now I'm not sure if I don't want to go because of the beer, or I do want to go because of the food. Decisions, decision.

If it is beer ye seek Big Rock Chop House in Birmingham has really good beer but the food is very expensive (but good nonetheless). They are actually now putting the finishing touches on a new building right down the street from their current location that will be specifically for brewing/serving their beer and will have more of a pub-style food menu. I am anxiously awaiting the opening of that since there really isn't anything like that available in Birmingham, Bloomfield, western side of Troy area and for some reason going the extra 3 miles to Royal Oak or Ferndale isn't as appealing to me as it was when I was just a few years younger.

I'm getting old!
 
I had a new one yesterday...No-Li Brewery in Spokane, Washington. It was their Imperial IPA and I thought being an 8.1% imperial it would be pretty good. Actually however it was about average. Nothing spectacular.
 
I had a new one yesterday...No-Li Brewery in Spokane, Washington. It was their Imperial IPA and I thought being an 8.1% imperial it would be pretty good. Actually however it was about average. Nothing spectacular.

Their regular IPA is pretty good. and their chocolate dunkel is awesome! They are distributing it out where you are? When I lived in Western Washington we couldn't even get it without going east of the cascades.
 
Their regular IPA is pretty good. and their chocolate dunkel is awesome! They are distributing it out where you are? When I lived in Western Washington we couldn't even get it without going east of the cascades.

The "good beer" store got in 3 or 4 different ones, all imperials. First time I'd ever seen them (while I was there buying beer for my victim in the beer exchange). Based on your comments, I might try another one now.
 
Another glorious weekend for great beers. Sampled several local brews I've never tried before (including a memorable amber ale from Jolly Pumpkin), and a few classics I always enjoy returning to (Stone Russian Imperial Stout!)
 
Another glorious weekend for great beers. Sampled several local brews I've never tried before (including a memorable amber ale from Jolly Pumpkin), and a few classics I always enjoy returning to (Stone Russian Imperial Stout!)

I had never tried any of the Jolly Pumpkin stuff because few of the stores around here carry it and the bars that have it charge an arm and a leg but I've heard many good things about them. When I was out shopping for our latest beer exchange I discovered that my local beer/liquor store had started stocking more of it and the prices were rather reasonable so I bought some of the amber ale for one of my exchangees and for myself as well. I am looking forward to cracking mine open soon.

Maister - Can you get Kuhnhenn products on your side of the state? They have a small capacity but are starting to get into more bars at least (still nearly impossible to find in stores). They might be my favorite Michigan brewery at the moment. Consistently great beers.
 
Maister - Can you get Kuhnhenn products on your side of the state? They have a small capacity but are starting to get into more bars at least (still nearly impossible to find in stores). They might be my favorite Michigan brewery at the moment. Consistently great beers.

Short answer is no. In fact, I was unable to get Kuhnhenn the last time I was in Frankenmuth (which is considerably closer to Warren)! They don't seem very focused on increasing their distribution.
 
Ahhh......

Trying Fire Rock Pale Ale :b: by Kona Brewing Co. tonight while in the hot tub. If I have enough I might have to dial up some Cyburbianistas on the East Coast.....8-!
 
USA Today Article: Build a craft brewery, urban revival will come
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...val-beer-creates-small-business-hubs/2487625/

The arrival of a craft brewery was also often one of the first signs that a neighborhood was changing. From New England to the West Coast, new businesses bubbled up around breweries, drawing young people and creating a vibrant community where families could plant roots and small businesses could thrive

"We sowed the seeds of our own demise here,"

Even if the brewery owners don't have confirmation that they'll be forced to move, history shows they have reason to be concerned. Winifred Curran, a geography professor at DePaul University in Chicago, studies how gentrification changes cities. She wrote her graduate-school dissertation on how gentrification in Brooklyn's Williamsburg neighborhood affected small manufacturers. Small businesses struggled to stay put while developers converted factories and warehouses into lucrative lofts and swarms of wealthy new residents drove up prices, she says. She warns that the appeal of revitalized neighborhoods can decimate small businesses, both old and new.

"You can try to use the establishment of manufacturing businesses to be the wedge that allows gentrification to happen, but then you need to protect those businesses," Curran says. Otherwise "the market creates this demand for industrial space and then kills the goose that laid the golden egg."

Have you seen this happen ?
 
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Had a Colorado Native last week. Not great beer, but a cool concept. All ingredients from Colorado. H2O included :)
 
Went out for a working dinner last night to an ale house that has over 400 beers I believe. I ordered a Jever Pilsner from Germany. They had it on draft! I haven't have one since 1995 - when I was a junior in high school on an exchange trip. Man that taste and smell brought me back the minute the foamy head hit my lips.
 
Anybody have any real-life experiences with the Corkscl^^ Beer Chiller?
It looks like something I'd like to own, but I've read some pretty controversial online reviews.



^^Deliberately misspelled, but can be found with online keyword search.:)
 
I was able to visit Stone Brewing Company in Escondido during my recent trip. Very impressive.

I am extremely jealous and envy!


Tried Sam Adams Third Voyage and Grumpy Monk last night. Both were pretty good, but Third Voyage was very good.
 
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