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RTDNTOTO 🐻 Random Thoughts Deserving No Thread Of Their Own 19 (2024)

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A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I were driving through Sacramento and passed the old Wonder Bread factory on CA-160. I remember getting a tour of that place when I was about seven or eight.

Anyway, she said. "The Wonder factory is now a storage facility. That's sad!"

"No, not really," I replied. "That's a great adaptive reuse for the building. Storage fits right in with the neighborhood and surroundings."

(I got "the look.")

What do you think--is this a good adaptive reuse?

Note: Wifey is not a planner and does not have "planner brain" always on like me.

Jim

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jumbach said:
A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I were driving through Sacramento and passed the old Wonder Bread factory on CA-160. I remember getting a tour of that place when I was about seven or eight.

Anyway, she said. "The Wonder factory is now a storage facility. That's sad!"

"No, not really," I replied. "That's a great adaptive reuse for the building. Storage fits right in with the neighborhood and surroundings."

(I got "the look.")

What do you think--is this a good adaptive reuse?

Note: Wifey is not a planner and does not have "planner brain" always on like me.

Jim

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It's not as good of an adaptive reuse as, say, Gilstrap Chiropractic, but it fits in reasonably well.
 
Domino's at this distressed location has to be accessed from a drive through window only on the southeast side of the building. Does dumpster location/drug deal spot to drive through count as adaptive reuse?
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WSU MUP Student said:
Last night I called my daughter into the kitchen to read the expiration date on a coupon for dishwasher detergent because I couldn't find my glasses.

I have never felt older in my life. :worried:
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There was a Facebook meme a few years ago wanting people to post a picture of "the oldest thing in your kitchen."

So I posted a picture of my wife.

She thought it was funny.

Jim
 
ursus said:
I am sure she did! But watch your back anyway and pump your brakes at the back of the driveway a couple times. A cautious man stays alive. :)
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and check the undercarriage

so, one of my staff members came into my office and said hey do you want to have pizza with us today? and I said sure and she said we are getting a large Greek pizza and I said great

okay, here's the thing people, when someone says Greek Pizza to me, I am thinking a square pizza with an obscenely thick crust, so yeah, all in, but what I got was a pizza with olive, tomatoes, basil and a few chunks of feta

wtaf no - I hate feta and I hate olives so luckily I was able to pick them off

so, my brainy colleagues in here, who was right
 
luckless pedestrian said:
and check the undercarriage

so, one of my staff members came into my office and said hey do you want to have pizza with us today? and I said sure and she said we are getting a large Greek pizza and I said great

okay, here's the thing people, when someone says Greek Pizza to me, I am thinking a square pizza with an obscenely thick crust, so yeah, all in, but what I got was a pizza with olive, tomatoes, basil and a few chunks of feta

wtaf no - I hate feta and I hate olives so luckily I was able to pick them off

so, my brainy colleagues in here, who was right
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I would get what they ordered if I ordered a Greek Pizza here.

If you don't like Feta and Olives, what do you order on your square pizza?
 
kms said:
I would get what they ordered if I ordered a Greek Pizza here.

If you don't like Feta and Olives, what do you order on your square pizza?
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usually, it's just a cheese pizza but made in the noted greek style lol but maybe I had it wrong
 
Maister said:
It's not as good of an adaptive reuse as, say, Gilstrap Chiropractic, but it fits in reasonably well.
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Especially with the take home pizza place in the back.

joscoffee said:
Domino's at this distressed location has to be accessed from a drive through window only on the southeast side of the building. Does dumpster location/drug deal spot to drive through count as adaptive reuse?
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There was a Krystal's a few towns away that closed down in 08 or 09. Someone turned it into a meth lab. After the eventual explosion and remediation it became a Little Caesars.
 
joscoffee said:
Domino's at this distressed location has to be accessed from a drive through window only on the southeast side of the building. Does dumpster location/drug deal spot to drive through count as adaptive reuse?
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We had a Hardee's, infamous for staffing troubles and off-site ignorant management, where staff were selling crack rocks and meth through the drive window, maybe with a few burgers as well. Call that adaptive re-use. Word got around and the sting op brought a raid
 
I had some help. It ain't like I can make this kinda mess all by myself. Don't act like you ain't help me pull that bottle off the shelf.
 
luckless pedestrian said:
and check the undercarriage

so, one of my staff members came into my office and said hey do you want to have pizza with us today? and I said sure and she said we are getting a large Greek pizza and I said great

okay, here's the thing people, when someone says Greek Pizza to me, I am thinking a square pizza with an obscenely thick crust, so yeah, all in, but what I got was a pizza with olive, tomatoes, basil and a few chunks of feta

wtaf no - I hate feta and I hate olives so luckily I was able to pick them off

so, my brainy colleagues in here, who was right
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I would expect some artichoke hearts in addition to the ingredients listed for a "greek" pizza.

Now, up by @arcplans is a fantastic mediterrian resturant that has a Gyro pizza: https://www.eatpetra.com/. Now, that's a good pizza.
 
fringe said:
We had a Hardee's, infamous for staffing troubles and off-site ignorant management, where staff were selling crack rocks and meth through the drive window, maybe with a few burgers as well. Call that adaptive re-use. Word got around and the sting op brought a raid
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I would classify this as a "drive through pharmacy," which is allowed in most zones. Food service is the accessory use. SPR required if residentially adjacent.

Jim
 
We got a complaint about the church and the liquor store sharing a building. Both are allowed uses, and the store was there before the church was (that part of the building was a warehouse before). Had the liquor store moved in when the church was already there, it would have triggered an SPR.

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Client went before P&Z and CC while I was on vacation. Not their first rodeo, declined my offer to look over their presentation in advance, (we all knew I would not be there), and showed up expecting fair treatment.

Staff report neutral leaning towards negative (surprise!) and presentation is all negative (surprise again!). Client makes their presentation/rebuttal and wins over enough votes to get tabled (versus denied). Now we're on the clock to address random negative comments that weren't raised in the previous 3 staff-level reviews of the documents, revise some supporting documents to be more descriptive yet open-ended, and have a new presentation.

So guess who will be billing some time on this over the next couple of days? Should be fun - the planner in me likes presentations and wants to start with some "if you read page XX of the PUD documents it clearly states" and slides of the state-mandated floodplain areas that the CC thinks should be developed.

I'm ready! Anyone else face something like this?
 
Salmissra said:
Client went before P&Z and CC while I was on vacation. Not their first rodeo, declined my offer to look over their presentation in advance, (we all knew I would not be there), and showed up expecting fair treatment.

Staff report neutral leaning towards negative (surprise!) and presentation is all negative (surprise again!). Client makes their presentation/rebuttal and wins over enough votes to get tabled (versus denied). Now we're on the clock to address random negative comments that weren't raised in the previous 3 staff-level reviews of the documents, revise some supporting documents to be more descriptive yet open-ended, and have a new presentation.

So guess who will be billing some time on this over the next couple of days? Should be fun - the planner in me likes presentations and wants to start with some "if you read page XX of the PUD documents it clearly states" and slides of the state-mandated floodplain areas that the CC thinks should be developed.

I'm ready! Anyone else face something like this?
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Nope, I'm facing writing an infrastructure improvement plan for impact fee in 9 days.
 
WSU MUP Student said:
Last night I called my daughter into the kitchen to read the expiration date on a coupon for dishwasher detergent because I couldn't find my glasses.

I have never felt older in my life. :worried:
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Dude, that's what cell phone cameras are for. Take a pic and then just zoom in.
 
DVD said:
490 in mine, but either Bubba wins or Bubba loses because his place needs more cardiologists.

What F#$^ co worker calls me before 8 am? Yep, it's the one I thought it was. They're also good at setting up meetings with vague subject lines like some lady from the county. Obviously you got an email, why not just forward me the email so I know WTF is going on.
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We work a 4 x 10 schedule and several of my coworkers are on Eastern time while I'm Central. 7 am calls and meetings are normal for me.
 
joscoffee said:
Domino's at this distressed location has to be accessed from a drive through window only on the southeast side of the building. Does dumpster location/drug deal spot to drive through count as adaptive reuse?
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I especially like the street name "Up River Road". Kinda like what happened to Uncle Bob after he got caught robbing that liquor store? Oh, got sent to the Big House Up the River for 8 to 10
 
DVD said:
490 in mine, but either Bubba wins or Bubba loses because his place needs more cardiologists.
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It works out to roughly 1 cardiologist per every 1,600 residents. I have no idea what that means, though...
 
Maister said:
I especially like the street name "Up River Road". Kinda like what happened to Uncle Bob after he got caught robbing that liquor store? Oh, got sent to the Big House Up the River for 8 to 10
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When I was about 7 my dad asked me if I wanted to make a special trip with him to see the capitol building "where the governor lived". I disappointed him by refusing absolutely, but it was because I was afraid of the governor, the proprietor of the "big house" to which my dad referred every time he was breaking the speed limit. Never explained that to him - he would probably get a laugh.
 
So I accidentally listened to a LOOOOOOT of Gordon Lightfoot yesterday. So there's that. I was also driving home through the desert after my PC meeting late. You have these moments where his music really feels like an appropriately weird needle-drop in a long form TV series about desert dwelling hooligan-cannibals who eat chubby planners who are driving home. Eek.
 
I hope everyone knows the fortune cookie game. If not you will not get the dirtiest fortune ever.

All the water in the world can't sink a ship unless it gets inside.

So much imagery.
 
jumbach said:
We got a complaint about the church and the liquor store sharing a building. Both are allowed uses, and the store was there before the church was (that part of the building was a warehouse before). Had the liquor store moved in when the church was already there, it would have triggered an SPR.

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That's a new one for me. I guess you have to get the wine for sacrament somewhere though.

Almost every gas station owner has come to see me about putting in a mini-liquor store in their convenience store. They have to have a separate entrance but the cashier simply moves to a another partitioned section to sell the booze. The ones that got approved prior to the Council restricting where they could go typically include a liquor store takes up between 100-300 sq feet.
 
ursus said:
So I accidentally listened to a LOOOOOOT of Gordon Lightfoot yesterday. So there's that. I was also driving home through the desert after my PC meeting late. You have these moments where his music really feels like an appropriately weird needle-drop in a long form TV series about desert dwelling hooligan-cannibals who eat chubby planners who are driving home. Eek.
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whoa that is catnip for depression - ya gotta be careful there, man
 
ursus said:
You are NOT kidding. I couldn't stop myself. I promise I didn't like it!!!!
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I need to be notified when you do this, preferably in advance - though I once needed intervention from a friend for listening to too much Natalie Merchant so I do empathize
 
luckless pedestrian said:
I need to be notified when you do this, preferably in advance - though I once needed intervention from a friend for listening to too much Natalie Merchant so I do empathize
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Natalie Merchant!? Our Lady of the Perpetual Welling of Tears? Let me get my Joni Mitchell album out so we can lighten the mood! :)

You've done it now. Consider yourself notified. I'm already singing Verdi Cries in my head. The man in 119 is still taking his tea all alone, dammit! Can't somebody just have tea with him!?
 
ursus said:
Natalie Merchant!? Our Lady of the Perpetual Welling of Tears? Let me get my Joni Mitchell album out so we can lighten the mood! :)

You've done it now. Consider yourself notified. I'm already singing Verdi Cries in my head. The man in 119 is still taking his tea all alone, dammit! Can't somebody just have tea with him!?
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Need some Saint Motel right away!
 
I am truly confused about some of the email solicitations I get.

I want to ask these people what do you think the planning department has to do with...

temperature control units?

website design?

international aviation?

sales and lead generation?

elementary educational markets?
 
Planit said:
I am truly confused about some of the email solicitations I get.

I want to ask these people what do you think the planning department has to do with...

temperature control units?

website design?

international aviation?

sales and lead generation?

elementary educational markets?
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We get calls almost daily from people wanting us to mark their boundary lines. Uh, we are not surveyors . . .
 
jumbach said:
We get calls almost daily from people wanting us to mark their boundary lines. Uh, we are not surveyors . . .
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I get all the random ones. The ones that chap my hide are the ones with subject lines like "missed your call" or "our meeting scheduled for tomorrow" when there is no such thing.

Outlook Focused Inbox has been really good at sorting the wheat from the chaff, though, and I don't pick up the phone when it rings with an unknown caller.
 
What do you think of all those Truth Passages that people post on social media? Do you find them inspiring? Do they help? Are they funny? A weird Gen X thing? A Jesus-adjacent thing?

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Wannaplan? said:
What do you think of all those Truth Passages that people post on social media? Do you find them inspiring? Do they help? Are they funny? A weird Gen X thing? A Jesus-adjacent thing?

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Like any quotes, they're a mixed bag. I find it really has more to do with context than anything. For instance, some people just post quotes that they think sound cool in hopes that some of that coolness rubs off on them. Others post quotes that seem somewhat out of context or only peripherally appropriate in an effort to reinforce their own world-view, while others rely on famous names to provide authoritative cover or legitimacy to back them up.

Looking at Orwell above is a good example. Proponents of BOTH sides of the political spectrum try to enlist Orwell to their cause intimating that the other side is attempting to install a totalitarian state to varying degrees of success.
 
Maister said:
Like any quotes, they're a mixed bag. I find it really has more to do with context than anything. For instance, some people just post quotes that they think sound cool in hopes that some of that coolness rubs off on them. Others post quotes that seem somewhat out of context or only peripherally appropriate in an effort to reinforce their own world-view, while others rely on famous names to provide authoritative cover or legitimacy to back them up.
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