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NEVERENDING ♾️ The NEVERENDING Political Discussion Thread

Bubba said:
You're confusing them with the vegan piranhas.
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No. They're insufferable, which is worse than the annoying vegetarian piranha.

Also,

Vegan Piranha - they have a good beat and you can dance to it

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Nice, JNA. That was surely the first phrase that came to mind for most smart aleck Americans age 35-55.

The excellents.
 
So tRump is in trouble for asking Ukraine to investigate Biden by a secret (initially) phone call.

What does the stable genius do now? Publicly asked China to do the same.

If you recall during the ‘16 campaign, he asked Russia on tv to find HRC’s email.

This is standard stuff. No bigly issue here.
(I guess if you might go down, you might as well go down in flames)
 
The doubling down on TV is troubling to me. It clearly shows he doesn't believe he is in the wrong and is comfortable confirming what he was doing previously, because no one will leave him. It shows me he feels that he is invincible. He knows the Republicans won't leave him for Elizabeth Warren.

The case against him is clear, if you are willing to look at it objectively. It may not be completely illegal. It sure looks like it is in a gray area. I wouldn't ever say that it 100% WASN'T ILLEGAL, like many republicans seem to be doing the last two days. I think at best it is 50/50. With that said though, it objectively is bad for our country. It is objectively something that no one should want our President to be doing. I go back to WWHIODI (what would happen if Obama did it). My answer is that this would be CRAZYTOWN on Hannity.

Even FoxNews is breaking when it comes to trying to explain what is happening. The clear rift between "news" and "opinion" is becoming more apparent. Which is funny because for years it wasn't...

We need a President that realizes that a good portion of the job is to act as a guiding light to our democracy.
 
I cant access AAEC Cartoons at work but at home I saw a good one today - DJT as the Joker ?
 
I think this article is pretty good...

www.marketwatch.com

Opinion: The real reason for Trump’s meltdowns

Trump still has not learned — much less respected — the essential fact that he has been, for three years now, a public servant. A lack of accountability may...
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Trump isn't used to having oversight. His ability to adapt to something different is his biggest weakness.
 
Trump Twitter said:
As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!).
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I am just not sure what to say about this. I feel like it is the Onion.... but it isn't. Wow...
 
I saw that and wow is right. Reality TV is one thing, but the reality in the world is scary.

"...in my great and unmatched wisdom..."

Just let that resonate for a bit. The 'stable genius" line was one thing. This is completely stunning (& not in a good way).
 
I am so using that line in everything I do.

If you apply for anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the application/you at the public hearing/etc.

Think of the possibilities!
 
DVD said:
I am so using that line in everything I do.

If you apply for anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the application/you at the public hearing/etc.

Think of the possibilities!
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It is a pretty great line. I'm going to have to find a way to work that into all of my work emails.
 
So just so we are clear:

Republicans: The writers of the legislation in 1964 didn't mean for sex to mean sexual orientation, they didn't even know what that meant then. They shouldn't be protected!
Also Republicans: The founders understood that all gun types should always be protected and never regulated. ALL GUNS!
 
two questions:

1. Polling today: with people giving up their landline, who are pollsters calling now - i.e. is Joe Biden leading in the polls for the simple reason that pollsters are only getting old white democrats on the phone?

2. How is it that a person can refuse to testify under subpeona and not be arrested
 
luckless pedestrian said:
two questions:

1. Polling today: with people giving up their landline, who are pollsters calling now - i.e. is Joe Biden leading in the polls for the simple reason that pollsters are only getting old white democrats on the phone?

2. How is it that a person can refuse to testify under subpeona and not be arrested
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I saw a WaPo poll (on impeachment) today that reported 62% of callers were reached via cell and the rest via landline. I have yet to get a polling call on my cellphone, but I tend to not answer unknown callers.

I think you'll start to see arrests for these folks ignoring subpoenas.
 
Gedunker said:
I saw a WaPo poll (on impeachment) today that reported 62% of callers were reached via cell and the rest via landline. I have yet to get a polling call on my cellphone, but I tend to not answer unknown callers.

I think you'll start to see arrests for these folks ignoring subpoenas.
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I received a polling call via cell phone in the waning days of the Christie administration.

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I appreciate Dan Rather's thoughtful commentary on this administration.

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Richmond Jake said:
"...they didn’t help us with Normandy..." Huh?
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slate.com

What Trump Means When He Says the Kurds “Didn’t Help Us With Normandy”

Trump’s point was muddled to the point of incoherence. Here’s what he meant.
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And what about New Zealand? I mean who needs those losers as allies? Like, what contributions did they ever make to our war efforts during the Spanish-American War? None! And don't even get me started on all our wars Brazil chickened out of....
 
We did it in my last job. Then there was controversy over how the county commissioner flipped the coin instead of the clerk or some BS.
 
michaelskis said:
I have heard of this, but never thought that any of those stories were true...

HICKORY, N.C. (WTVD) -- A City Council primary election came down to a literal coin flip after both candidates got the same number of votes. It happened in Hickory, North Carolina.
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Happened in a community I used to work for back in 2007...

www.eagletribune.com

A roll of the dice in Londonderry

LONDONDERRY | The town clerk chucked the big, green die on the carpet yesterday, rolling the election tie-breaking process forward but resolving nothing in the deadlocked Town Council race between
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CM: Please get a bid to install a water fountain as part of the project.
Me: The project we are awarding bids for tonight?
CM: Yes.
Me: That's already part of the project.
CM: Since when?
Me: Since the plans were drawn. May I ask why?
CM: Councilman ____ wanted it. Can you tell him tonight?
Me: Sure. During my presentation or off to the side?
CM: Off to the side is better. Just so you let him know.
Me: No problem.


* The plans have been completed & on display since April. Have also explained project details multiple times through bidding and public discussions. :think:
 
So I watched last night.

My takeaways:

  • I think Biden is done.
  • I don't think Elizabeth Warren can win the whole thing. She is the Hillary of 2020. The D's love her, but she isn't the candidate to win the whole thing.
  • I can't believe that Bernie showed up. He just had a heart attack. Isn't that worth just saying "I'm out"?
  • I think Pete is too rational. The D Primary is about unbelievable hyperbole and talking about shiny objects. He keeps trying to be rational and reasonable. It isn't going to win it for him.
  • I like that Yang wore a Math pin. That is funny. He still has no chance. Although they talked about UBI a lot, which I guess is a win for him.
  • Why are Harris, Booker, Klobachar, and Gabbard still in this? Just move on already.
  • I'm not sure why Steyer thought his entrance into this race was needed...

Overall it was painful. These just seem to keep getting more painful. Almost as painful as when Bernie (sort of) called out Warren for taxes on the middle class going up. The wince from Warren was real. That is like me throughout the whole thing...
 
Hink said:
So I watched last night.

My takeaways:

  • I think Biden is done.
  • I don't think Elizabeth Warren can win the whole thing. She is the Hillary of 2020. The D's love her, but she isn't the candidate to win the whole thing.
  • I can't believe that Bernie showed up. He just had a heart attack. Isn't that worth just saying "I'm out"?
  • I think Pete is too rational. The D Primary is about unbelievable hyperbole and talking about shiny objects. He keeps trying to be rational and reasonable. It isn't going to win it for him.
  • I like that Yang wore a Math pin. That is funny. He still has no chance. Although they talked about UBI a lot, which I guess is a win for him.
  • Why are Harris, Booker, Klobachar, and Gabbard still in this? Just move on already.
  • I'm not sure why Steyer thought his entrance into this race was needed...

Overall it was painful. These just seem to keep getting more painful. Almost as painful as when Bernie (sort of) called out Warren for taxes on the middle class going up. The wince from Warren was real. That is like me throughout the whole thing...
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It was long, I even tuned out for a little while.

Booker should never be in charge of anything ever again (I'm a Newarker) and Yang, Klobuchar, Gabbard, and Harris need to bow out. Biden should have never thrown his hat in the ring-the last election was the time for him to run if it ever was time. Bernie can't win against Trump.

The DNC really needs to apply some pressure to narrow the field and start coalescing around just a few candidates. I'd personally go for a Warren/Buttigieg ticket. NJ's primary is almost dead last so the final contenders will be decided before we get to vote.
 
I watched 2/3 of the debate last night (it was at my undergrad alma mater! :D). There were definitely too many people on that stage. The key takeaways I recall are:

  • There were definitely a lot of attacks on Elizabeth Warren, which must mean that the others are considering her a real contender.
  • Cory Booker should drop out to be the official "Democratic motivational speaker" - c'mon guys, why can't we all just get along!
  • Pete made Gabbard and O'Rourke look like left-wing extremists on the assault rifles and pulling troops out of the Middle East issues
  • I don't recall anything that Biden said :ha:
  • It was great to see Bernie there but I wish he'd drop out and be a mentor to whomever the candidate ends up being
  • I want to Google-check Warren's "charge the super wealthy an extra two cents for every dollar above $XZY dollars they make, and we can pay for all of these early childhood programs" statements
  • Who was that Tom guy?
 
terraplnr said:
I watched 2/3 of the debate last night (it was at my undergrad alma mater! :D). There were definitely too many people on that stage. The key takeaways I recall are:

  • There were definitely a lot of attacks on Elizabeth Warren, which must mean that the others are considering her a real contender.
  • Cory Booker should drop out to be the official "Democratic motivational speaker" - c'mon guys, why can't we all just get along!
  • Pete made Gabbard and O'Rourke look like left-wing extremists on the assault rifles and pulling troops out of the Middle East issues
  • I don't recall anything that Biden said :ha:
  • It was great to see Bernie there but I wish he'd drop out and be a mentor to whomever the candidate ends up being
  • I want to Google-check Warren's "charge the super wealthy an extra two cents for every dollar above $XZY dollars they make, and we can pay for all of these early childhood programs" statements
  • Who was that Tom guy?
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I did not watch... but I did read a several different summaries and have determined that I am once again likely to vote for the best 3rd party candidate.
 
Tom Steyer has been running a ton of TV ads here in South Cackalackie. Not sure about elsewhere. He's got the money that's for sure.
 
MD Planner said:
Tom Steyer has been running a ton of TV ads here in South Cackalackie. Not sure about elsewhere. He's got the money that's for sure.
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I'm seeing them in NE OH right now too.

First ones I've seen from any D candidate. I was quite surprised to see it this early, but maybe he knows what he's doing or just wasting cash. I don't know.
 
You know maybe the Dems running with a Washington outsider isn't such a bad idea, when you think about it. Could potentially appeal to both the base and independents, and not have political baggage vulnerabilities. It's worth considering.
 
Maister said:
You know maybe the Dems running with a Washington outsider isn't such a bad idea, when you think about it. Could potentially appeal to both the base and independents, and not have political baggage vulnerabilities. It's worth considering.
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Agreed. Clinton and Obama both came out of seemingly nowhere in their first primaries.
 
Political ads you say? Been running here for months in NH (by multiple candidates)...one of the drawbacks of being the first primary state.
 
NHPlanner said:
Political ads you say? Been running here for months in NH (by multiple candidates)...one of the drawbacks of being the first primary state.
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And we're probably getting them in OH because we're a 'big deal' general election state.
 
The letter is just another example of the bully. What is this foreign policy? 5th Grade threats and innuendo?
New York Wiseguy Mob Boss Tactics.
 
Hink said:
Okay.... can we talk about this letter?
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Imagine if one of us in our work wrote and distributed an official letter like that?

How do I register for unemployment again?

I am utterly ashamed that he is our President - egotistical nincompoopery.
 
Hink said:
Okay.... can we talk about this letter?

www.businessinsider.com

Trump wrote a letter warning Erdogan not to be a 'tough guy' over Syria, telling him history will look upon him 'forever as the devil if good things don't happen'

Trump also said in the aggressive letter to Turkish President Erdogan he didn't want to be "responsible for destroying the Turkish economy."
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Holy.... geez I just don't know how he can see these things as wins for him. Is he really that blind to reality? Wowza...
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I keep being surprised that it really exists and is really, truly, a letter that the President of the United States wrote. I think of all the people who would be fired or at least reprimanded if they wrote professional letters like that!

hahaha Planit. . . 5th grade threats and innuendo is spot on.
 
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