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Planit said:
Several Rs running in NC have deleted posts and pictures of them endorsing & stand with him in the last 2 days.
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I've been tracking this slow meltdown for a while, and happy to see complete collapse.

This bad governor candidate is probably going to impact up and down the ballot. I doubt NC is truly a swing state this election after this fiasco.
 
Wannaplan? said:
Feels like we are trending towards some religious shit. Okay, I’m game:

“I think if Donald Trump and JD Vance met Jesus today, they would ridicule him as a single, childless hippie.”

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Yep, very low energy person letting people touch his hem. I would never do that.
 
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Imagine taking a time machine to the year 2124 and finding out no one is talking about end stage capitalism but minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour and you’re still paying off your student loans.
 
Wannaplan? said:
Imagine taking a time machine to the year 2124 and finding out no one is talking about end stage capitalism but minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour and you’re still paying off your student loans.
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Talk about your dystopian futures! Wait, what?
 
The Terminator said:

Eric Adams is going DOWN
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From the little bit I've seen and read in the media, it appears the feds have him caught beyond any reasonable doubt.

The combination of Gov Hochul pulling the plug on congestion pricing, and now this scandal with the Mayor...those are two significant blows to public trust in NYC political leadership. Couldn't be worse timing either this close to the election.
 
Money Guy Dave Ramsey reached out to both Harris and Trump to do interviews. Specifically, what will they do in the first 90 days to help the economy. Trump accepted it and Harris is still considering it.

Here is the part that gets me though. Apparently Ramsey has received hate mail for being willing to sit and talk with both candidates. Personally, I applaud him for doing so in a fair and unbiased way.
 
michaelskis said:
Money Guy Dave Ramsey reached out to both Harris and Trump to do interviews. Specifically, what will they do in the first 90 days to help the economy. Trump accepted it and Harris is still considering it.

Here is the part that gets me though. Apparently Ramsey has received hate mail for being willing to sit and talk with both candidates. Personally, I applaud him for doing so in a fair and unbiased way.
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I really can't take Dave Ramsey seriously--he is detached from economic reality and fails to realize some debt is "smart." I appreciate that he is willing to talk to both though.
 
Anecdata for sure, but on our drive through what I imagine is a non-representative sliver of Ohio this past weekend we saw a lot more Harris signs than I was expecting and a lot of houses with signs for Trump/Vance and signs for Sherrod Brown for senate.

We have a senate race on the ballot here in Michigan but I have definitely not seen any signs on lawns for Slotkin (D) for senate along with Trump for president (or the other way for Rogers (R) for senate and Harris for president). It will be interesting to see how much ticket splitting there is in some of the states with senate races.
 
Suburb Repairman said:
I really can't take Dave Ramsey seriously--he is detached from economic reality and fails to realize some debt is "smart." I appreciate that he is willing to talk to both though.
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There is a lot that I don't agree with him on. But seems to be the loudest "Spend less than you make" people out there. Which is still a concept that a lot of people can't come to grips with. (I say this as I just submitted documents for a mortgage on a house)
 
michaelskis said:
There is a lot that I don't agree with him on. But seems to be the loudest "Spend less than you make" people out there. Which is still a concept that a lot of people can't come to grips with. (I say this as I just submitted documents for a mortgage on a house)
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I agree with you. That part needs to be preached to a large part of our population. But his obsession of people not having any debt is simply not based on reality. Apparently he owns thousands of rental properties so anytime he can talk someone out of obtaining a mortgage it makes it easier for cash buyers like him to buy instead.

OT: it's crazy how many people he talks to who make say 50-60K and they have an $800 or more car payment. Talk about living within your means. I'm personally a big believer in OPM - Other People's Money. I don't understand people who would rather pay cash for a vehicle than to borrow money at a low interest rate. If you have that kind of cash you're much better off investing the bulk of it. You'll get far more ROI on that than you would on the interest savings on the vehicle loan.
 
Suburb Repairman said:
I really can't take Dave Ramsey seriously--he is detached from economic reality and fails to realize some debt is "smart." I appreciate that he is willing to talk to both though.
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I listened to Dave from his early days to the mid-00s. In the beginning he really was very common sense driven. He had steps and a process and helped a lot of people get out of debt. I remember getting to meet him and it being really cool and him being super nice.

It seemed like he started taking more air time to get into political issues. Then he started getting a harsher and harsher in the way he spoke to people. In the early days he would get into a stern fatherly tone and tell people don't do stupid things. The last time I ran across him on the radio, he seemed to be straight up mean and demeaning to people. The stories in the Nashville media about how he's run his company have also been a bit out there.

As an aside, in high school and college I worked for a landscape company that did his yard. At that time it was a very nice upper middle class home in a neighborhood. He'd later go on to buy an insane mansion on hill with a massive garage, which I'm sure he could afford to pay cash on.
 
WSU MUP Student said:
Anecdata for sure, but on our drive through what I imagine is a non-representative sliver of Ohio this past weekend we saw a lot more Harris signs than I was expecting
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I've had the same observation in Texas. I'm in a major urban center but have observed a notable uptick in Harris/Walz signs compared to the same neighborhoods in the 2016/2020 presidential election cycles. I'm still a believer in the polls (generally speaking at least) which will almost certainly suggest a tight race decided by a couple key swing states; but I also can't ignore what I'm seeing anecdotally on the ground.
 
HomerJ said:
From the little bit I've seen and read in the media, it appears the feds have him caught beyond any reasonable doubt.

The combination of Gov Hochul pulling the plug on congestion pricing, and now this scandal with the Mayor...those are two significant blows to public trust in NYC political leadership. Couldn't be worse timing either this close to the election.
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Both Eric and Kathy have now reached the zenith of their political careers, no place to go now but down :p

Watch Andrew Cuomo run for mayor in 2025.......
 
HomerJ said:
I've had the same observation in Texas. I'm in a major urban center but have observed a notable uptick in Harris/Walz signs compared to the same neighborhoods in the 2016/2020 presidential election cycles. I'm still a believer in the polls (generally speaking at least) which will almost certainly suggest a tight race decided by a couple key swing states; but I also can't ignore what I'm seeing anecdotally on the ground.
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Same in my part of Tejas. I'm admittedly in a neon blue blueberry in the tomato soup of Texas, but I've noticed a major downtick in Trump stuff along with the uptick in Harris stuff. Even with my city being solid blue, you would still see a lot of Trump campaign stuff around town. This year? Maybe a handful. I suspect this ties to a harsh reality that he is not an exciting candidate and a growing quiet population of Republicans may even sit it out.

ActiVote right now is the most bullish on Trump in Texas, and it is indicating about 55%. Others have him at 50% to 52%. That's the closest in Texas in quite a while. He won with 52.5% in 2020, with the delta being about 800K votes then.

I don't think Harris/Walz needs to spend a lot of time in Texas, in part because our state democratic party is not great (new recent leadership, but definitely rebuilding to do). But this is close enough to cause down-ballot impacts. Cruz garnered only 50.9% against Beto in 2018, a non-Presidential election year. GOTV efforts are more effective in Presidential years, and Cruz is profoundly unpopular with many (trips to Cancun in the middle of disasters, and just generally being a candy ass POS). People that underestimate Colin Allred do so without recognizing his past... he knocked off Pete Sessions to gain the US Rep seat, when Sessions was at a peak of his power. Sessions ultimately carpet-bagged his way to another district and is back.

I am concerned that Harris/Walz isn't pushing hard enough on the border stuff. They actually have a winning narrative on Trump undermining solutions. As it stands, they're risking losing ground in the Texas Rio Grande Valley, where memories of what democrats did for farmworkers, etc. is dying with the older generations.
 
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mendelman said:
More Middle East war news today...oh boy.

Season 6 Leslie GIF by Parks and Recreation
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You know if Trump were President none of this would be happening. Arabs and Jews would love each other and live together peacefully. And if they didn't, he would take both factions aside and explain to them "hey, don't do that.....or else" and that would be the end of it.

(yeah yeah, I know. Iranians aren't Arabs)
 
I've seen a few stories written over the weekend about what the effects of Helene might be on elections. North Carolina and Georgia are somewhat in the toss up category. Does the disruption and displacement affect them one way or the other?
 
SlaveToTheGrind said:
No good memes yet from last night. Hard to beat the animal memes from the previous debate.
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Usually VP debates are non-events. They certainly have never played a role in influencing Presidential election outcomes. Last night, evidently, was no exception.

Concerning VP's in general, I understand historically the title was viewed as being no kind of job at all. That changed following Kennedy's assassination, but before then the VP didn't even have an actual office in a building.
 
bureaucrat#3 said:
I've seen a few stories written over the weekend about what the effects of Helene might be on elections. North Carolina and Georgia are somewhat in the toss up category. Does the disruption and displacement affect them one way or the other?
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If FEMA, or the Feds in general, fumble the response particularly badly I could see that being a drag for the Harris campaign but other than that, I think we're still relatively far enough from the actual election day that I'm doubtful the destruction, as bad as it is, will have much of an impact on any election results. If it had occurred closer to election day, I could imagine there would be some depressed turnout but that would probably affect the voters in the more rural and more isolated areas disproportionately harder than those closer into the cities and towns.
 
MTG strikes again! Just like Jewish Space Lasers...

Evidently "they" can control the weather & manufactured Hurricane Helene to take out tRump voters and spare blue sections.

www.huffpost.com

Marjorie Taylor Greene Says ‘They Can Control The Weather,’ Promoting Conspiracy About Hurricane Helene

Right-wingers have long promoted wild theories about weather control, and Greene, a Donald Trump ally, gave them a big boost.
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...and the economy is in shambles, but somehow there were 1/4milion new jobs and 4.1 unemployment.
 
Planit said:
MTG strikes again! Just like Jewish Space Lasers...

Evidently "they" can control the weather & manufactured Hurricane Helene to take out tRump voters and spare blue sections.

www.huffpost.com

Marjorie Taylor Greene Says ‘They Can Control The Weather,’ Promoting Conspiracy About Hurricane Helene

Right-wingers have long promoted wild theories about weather control, and Greene, a Donald Trump ally, gave them a big boost.
www.huffpost.com www.huffpost.com






...and the economy is in shambles, but somehow there were 1/4milion new jobs and 4.1 unemployment.
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JNA said:
MTG - talk about drinking the MAGA spiked kool-aid. :insane:
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She is 100% a buffoon.
 
SlaveToTheGrind said:
She is 100% a buffoon.
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Planit said:
MTG strikes again! Just like Jewish Space Lasers...

Evidently "they" can control the weather & manufactured Hurricane Helene to take out tRump voters and spare blue sections.

www.huffpost.com

Marjorie Taylor Greene Says ‘They Can Control The Weather,’ Promoting Conspiracy About Hurricane Helene

Right-wingers have long promoted wild theories about weather control, and Greene, a Donald Trump ally, gave them a big boost.
www.huffpost.com www.huffpost.com






...and the economy is in shambles, but somehow there were 1/4milion new jobs and 4.1 unemployment.
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She is full of shit as always. Hard hit Buncombe County is one the bluest in North Carolina.

SlaveToTheGrind said:
She is 100% a buffoon.
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..and 100% Grade A Human Excrement
 
bureaucrat#3 said:
I've seen a few stories written over the weekend about what the effects of Helene might be on elections. North Carolina and Georgia are somewhat in the toss up category. Does the disruption and displacement affect them one way or the other?
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I don’t know about GA, but in NC there is a lot of discussion about that. However the areas that have been affected the most are not as Red as one would think. Buncombe County voted for Biden by an almost 2/3rds margin.

Where I do see this having an impact is if FEMA messes it up, and so far, the news isn’t good before them.
 
Asheville was a very hip city with lots of artists and lots of educated populace. Had a reputation as an "energy center" for the "woo-woo" segment. Drum circles nightly in an outdoor central park.

Now they are struggling to rebuild their waterworks, two interstate highways closed for months.

How to open polling stations in a disaster area?

Dire sraits.
 
fringe said:
Asheville was a very hip city with lots of artists and lots of educated populace. Had a reputation as an "energy center" for the "woo-woo" segment. Drum circles nightly in an outdoor central park.

Now they are struggling to rebuild their waterworks, two interstate highways closed for months.

How to open polling stations in a disaster area?

Dire sraits.
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I'm sure the State of North Carolina will step up to make sure it's easy for people in Asheville and other affected areas can easily vote whether they're in place or displaced and staying out of state.
 
NC Gerrymandering has isolated the bluest parts of Asheville, split them in half and lumped them in with red Buncombe County.
 
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