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Sports 🥌 Teh 2025 MLB Thread - Tampa Bay Rays Have No Home

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Hurricane Milton ripped apart the roof at Tropicana Field in St. Pete.

The Rays & City of St. Pete came together for a redevelopment plan with a new stadium back in the summer, but Pinellas County did not want to play ball and the Rays pulled the idea. For the 2025 season, they will play in the yankees training facility in Tampa for their 'home' games, but the last 69 of 103 :baseball: games will be played on the road.

The Rays are obligated to play in St. Pete until 2028 unless another deal is worked out, I don't see that happening. Tampa maybe able to keep the team in the Tamps Bay Area or it'll go to the next city on MLB's list, provided that city shows them the money.

Get ready for the Winter Meetings. There are 74 days until pitchers & catchers report!
 
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The Braves currently have 35 players on their 40-man roster, which will probably drop to 34 assuming that Max Fried signs elsewhere.
 
After a surprise playoff run by the Tigers, fans around here are clamoring for ownership to spend some money on FAs and sign Skubal to a long-term deal. But Chris Ilitch is nothing like his dad was so I'm not holding out hope.
 
Uh, no Golden At-Bat. No. Gimmicks suck. No!
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Planit said:
Hurricane Milton ripped apart the roof at Tropicana Field in St. Pete.

The Rays & City of St. Pete came together for a redevelopment plan with a new stadium back in the summer, but Pinellas County did not want to play ball and the Rays pulled the idea. For the 2025 season, they will play in the yankees training facility in Tampa for their 'home' games, but the last 69 of 103 :baseball: games will be played on the road.

The Rays are obligated to play in St. Pete until 2028 unless another deal is worked out, I don't see that happening. Tampa maybe able to keep the team in the Tamps Bay Area or it'll go to the next city on MLB's list, provided that city shows them the money.

Get ready for the Winter Meetings. There are 74 days until pitchers & catchers report!
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There's an empty MLB stadium in Oakland maybe they can use . . .
Jim
 
jumbach said:
There's an empty MLB stadium in Oakland maybe they can use . . .
Jim
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It's funny you mention that multi-purpose facility.

Back when St. Pete/Tamps Bay region built Tropicana field & wanted a team:
they had an agreement with the White Sox to leave & the Illinois legislature literally stopped the clock in chambers to work past the deadline to keep them;
then an agreement with the Giants to leave SF, but a new local owner bought in & keep them;
similar with an agreement with the Mariners, but again no dice.
 
The Rangers successfully lowered my expectations last season after winning the World Series the season before. Now if they do well it's great, but if they don't, it's to be expected.
 
Bubba said:
That dude should have been put out to pasture a few years ago.
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Never thought I'd say it, but universal DH, pitch clock, and larger bases have all worked out better than I thought they would. Automated ball-strike - we'll see. IMO, that's enough messing with The National Pastime. Get those other gimmicks the hell outta here.
 
Juan Soto::New York Mets $765M/15 years. Holy smokes!

It makes me wonder, had the DH been in the NL when the Cardinals and Albert Pujols were negotiating a FA contract (before he went to Anaheim), might the Cardinals have swallowed hard and signed him, knowing they could stash him at DH instead of having a 40-something infielder?
 
 
Gedunker said:
Never thought I'd say it, but universal DH, pitch clock, and larger bases have all worked out better than I thought they would. Automated ball-strike - we'll see. IMO, that's enough messing with The National Pastime. Get those other gimmicks the hell outta here.
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I like the idea of automated ball-strike not during in-game, but as a means to assess umpires. And not to grade on precise strike zone, but instead to grade on consistency. I love the slight variability that comes with human umpires. I don't like it when umpires are all over the place as though they're detached from reality--maybe a "fuzzy edge" strike zone analysis that allows variability as long as it is within a certain tolerance. They could also use it in the umpire hiring/training process.

I'm a fan of DH, pitch clock and larger bases. It has made the game more interesting. I actually like the gamesmanship that has emerged some with pitch clock.
 
During the "Nonconforming Zone" - our MiLB team opened the season with a 6-0 win at home with a combined no-hitter featuring 12 Ks & 1BB, consisting of 3 pitchers!
 
The Rangers reloaded with pitching changes in the offseason. So far, so good: Their 13-9 start puts them atop the AL West. Still incorporating all the moving pieces to fit everyone into the right spots. Josh Smith continues the play as the infielder/outfielder that earned him the Silver Slugger Award for Utility player which is nice.
 
Happy with the Tigers start. It appears their late push and run into the playoffs last year was not a fluke.
 
Rangers played in Oakland Las Vegas Sacramento last night. Not much of a stadium; broadcasters were point out the differences that affect play compared to a major league park. Kind of interesting. For the first time this season they scored 8 runs; I guess they were the last team to score more than 6 this season. I didn't realize their offense has been that bad, but when you look at the losses you can't blame pitching for most of them.
 
Twins are sitting (4th ALC) at 8-15, .348, right where I expected them to be. Well, at least we are not the Chicago White Sox (5th ALC) but give it time.
 
Doohickie said:
Rangers played in Oakland Las Vegas Sacramento last night. Not much of a stadium; broadcasters were point out the differences that affect play compared to a major league park. Kind of interesting. For the first time this season they scored 8 runs; I guess they were the last team to score more than 6 this season. I didn't realize their offense has been that bad, but when you look at the losses you can't blame pitching for most of them.
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Current re-sale tickets are insane for some series at Sutter Health. Currently some tickets for the Oakland A's of Sacramento versus the SF Giants on 4th of July weekend are going for $100-$400a piece. That's insane for an "aright" minor league park. Current state of the NL Best:
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Rob Manfred is a hypocrite. Rose bet on baseball and lied about it. He bet on the Reds when he played and lied about it. He bet on the Reds when he managed and he lied about it. It's the one rule everyone in baseball knows you can't break, and he broke it and lied about it. I pray the veterans committee refuses to elect him, Jackson, and the rest of the Black Sox, to the BBHOF. Manfred disqualified himself yesterday as far as I am concerned.
 
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Rob Manfred is a hypocrite. Rose bet on baseball and lied about it. He bet on the Reds when he played and lied about it. He bet on the Reds when he managed and he lied about it. It's the one rule everyone in baseball knows you can't break, and he broke it and lied about it. I pray the veterans committee refuses to elect him, Jackson, and the rest of the Black Sox, to the BBHOF. Manfred disqualified himself yesterday as far as I am concerned.
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I agree with you on this except for one thing. Put their plaque in the HoF with a paragraph that says - banded from baseball from xxx - that way, like in Pete's case, the achievement is recognized AND how he disgraced himself for all to see.
 
Planit said:
I agree with you on this except for one thing. Put their plaque in the HoF with a paragraph that says - banded from baseball from xxx - that way, like in Pete's case, the achievement is recognized AND how he disgraced himself for all to see.
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Yeah, Manfred is a complete POS, but this decision isn't why. He is correct that dead former players/managers no longer constitute a threat to the integrity of the game, and they all literally served their lifetime bans. The HoF voters don't have to elect them (and I'm guessing they won't), but if they do, have the plaques tell both the good and the bad about their careers.
 
Bubba said:
Yeah, Manfred is a complete POS, but this decision isn't why. He is correct that dead former players/managers no longer constitute a threat to the integrity of the game, and they all literally served their lifetime bans. The HoF voters don't have to elect them (and I'm guessing they won't), but if they do, have the plaques tell both the good and the bad about their careers.
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This is fair. The HoF is also a museum, so it's important that their stories be known as a part of baseball history.
 
Bubba said:
Yeah, Manfred is a complete POS, but this decision isn't why. He is correct that dead former players/managers no longer constitute a threat to the integrity of the game, and they all literally served their lifetime bans. The HoF voters don't have to elect them (and I'm guessing they won't), but if they do, have the plaques tell both the good and the bad about their careers.
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What you're describing is not unlike how the HOF approaches the steroid era now--they layer in the context of it with exhibits that tend to touch on the good/bad, but it doesn't really single it out or feature. I'm also someone far more bothered by the use of PEDs than whether Pete bet on baseball. I mean, there's a lot of players with problems outside the diamond as well, domestic issues, non-PED drug use, violence, etc.
 
The Braves are toast at this point - no postseason - time to start trading and firing folks. :cursing:
 
Home Run Derby tonight
All-Star game tmrrw



& I'm not really all that excited about it this year, but will have it on I reckon
 
It's funny when something like this happens:

Pitcher Seranthony Dominguez was traded between games of a double-header. He had to walk across the field between games to get to his new team.

The Orioles treaded the reliever to the Blue Jays, who pitched for his new team against his old team in the 2nd game.
 
Massive choke job by the Braves management by not moving any expiring contracts at the trade deadline (looking at you, AA). :cursing:
 
^^Good luck with Eric Fedde in the rotation for the rest of the season.

Cardinals dispatched their expiring contract relievers for prospects. None of them appear to be the next Adam Wainwright, though.
 
Rangers had their slump but they're hanging around, just outside the Wildcard spot. The stocked up on relief pitching at the trade deadline (thanks, StL), which was one of their weak spots.

Had they won their last series against the Mariners they would have been in a playoff spot, but they didn't so they're not.

They beat the Yankees in extra innings last night. If they can sweep that series they would pass the Yankees and get into a Wildcard spot.

This is kind of how the season has gone though: Perpetually close but no cigar. But it wouldn't take too much to squeak into the playoffs and then you never know.
 
In the game against the Yankees last night, the Rangers inserted Joc Pederson as a pinch hitter. He did get a hit. With that hit, his average is up to 0.132. I think it was 0.126 prior to the hit. The hit turned out to be a home run to tie the game in the bottom of the ninth. He's got only 19 hits this year but 3 of them are home runs.

In the 10th inning the Yankees intentionally walked Wyatt Langford to pitch to Josh Jung, who promptly hit the cover off the ball with a no-doubt 3-run homer to walk off the game.
 
September callups are arriving & the playoff picture is beginning to become clearer - at least in the NL.

ALEast
Toronto up by 5 games over the yankmees & 7 over the BoSox
ALCentral
Detroit 5.5 games up on Cleveland
ALWest
Seattle a half game up on Houston & 4.5 over Texas
NLEast
Phila have clinched the division
NLCentral
Milwaukee have clinched the division
NLWest
LA is 2 games up on San Diego

Many wildcard positions are too close to call.






bubba - the Bravos are not last, so we got that going for us.
 
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