Do you work with the public regularly and/or have to present in front of a group regularly?
I work directly with the public. I meet with architects, engineers, and lawyers. I issue permits over the counter for home owners, expediters, and contractors. Just the other day I met with some old NIMBY couple who didn't like that the house next door to them was being remodeled. They had privacy concerns and thought the house next door had character and was upset that half of it was taken down to the studs. I explained the code to them, the permit processes, and even had some small talk with them to show that I am a human being and not just a robot that approves everything. The couple left somewhat content that the developer who is flipping the house went through the proper steps to obtain their building permit.
Not having to present in front of a group is a reason why I like my current work. I don't have to present stuff to strangers. When needed, I can make presentations especially when I am really prepared, but it's like pulling teeth for me.
The position I applied to does not require making presentations. The interaction is mostly 1 on 1 with customers.
Extrovert bias... annoying as hell. Being outgoing is such an overrated character trait.
Toastmasters is worthwhile if only to get out of your head a bit.
Also, some recommended reading: Susan Cain's Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World that Can't Stop Talking. It talks a lot about adaptive personalities, getting around extrovert bias, etc.
Well the issue is the job I applied for requires a lot of interaction with customers. I wasn't able to convince random strangers for 25 minutes that I was the best applicant for this job. Even though I've done the exact job for a year with few complaints.
It also kind of sucks that my supervisor subtly threw me under the bus when talking to the interview panel during lunch. He did say I do back down when confronted. But maybe he was trying to motivate me? Anyways It's disappointing i am ~95% of their ideal candidate, but they will probably roll the dice to see if they can get someone who is 100%.
Another problem is that the person who currently has this position (she's leaving to go to another department) is very hard to replace. She is perfect for the job. She is very competent, confident and even more respected by her co-workers. I guess they want to find a carbon copy of her and not "settle" with me.
Thanks for the book recommendation. Looks like I haven't used my audible trial yet, so i'll use it on this book.
The goal of Toastmasters isn't to turn you into some extrovert, who is happy to be the center of attention all the time, and is a whiz at small talk. But here's what it can do for you:
-learn to be more comfortable making a presentation
-learn how to organize, staff, and run a meeting
-practice different types of presentations (topics, lengths, etc)
-tips on preparing for a meeting, ie what's your role? Duties? Any extra items?
-getting feedback on your presentation/role/duty at the same meeting (this is key to improving)
-interacting with others in the meeting
As a former Toastmaster, I can tell you that their program is helpful, but you do have to put in some effort. You should look into clubs around you, see if one meets at a time that works for you. You must commit to regular attendance for the program to work.
That doesn't sound like it'll do much good for me in the short term. I looked at the site briefly, and a lot of the times were during lunch. There were a few in the evening, but the logistics are a bit awkward for me.
Maybe I might be better served seeing a shrink.
Thanks for your guys' input, I really appreciate it.