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Vehicles / bikes 🏍 Car Talk

I received a letter from FCA that they want to use my '22 Jeep Gladiator for emissions testing and if I agree, they'll give me $1k (in a gift card) and a loaner with free gas for the duration of the test... which would take between 5 to 8 weeks. I had no idea that their random testing takes that long.

I'll definitely offer them up my Jeep to use for a bit.

My wife wants a new vehicle sooner rather than later so if I have any say in what sort of loaner they offer me, I'm going to ask for a Grand Cherokee since that's high on the list of things my wife would want so it would be nice to test one out for a longer period... unless I can get them to offer up a Stelvio or Quadrifoglio!
 
Are they still calling themselves FCA? I thought they were Stellantis now.

Friday I'm taking my car in to get new brakes. This will be the first brake job and the car has nearly 75,000 miles. I'm not sure if that means the brakes are durable or I'm terribly neglectful.
 
Friday I'm taking my car in to get new brakes. This will be the first brake job and the car has nearly 75,000 miles. I'm not sure if that means the brakes are durable or I'm terribly neglectful.
That's pretty good. If they still work and aren't making noise it seems like you did everything right. You seem pretty handy. You could do that job yourself and save a few hundred bucks.
 
I was given a 2023 Nissan Altima recently when I rented a car in New Hampshire. I feel like the rear-view mirror is mounted in the absolute worst place possible, as it obstructs a YUGE portion of the windshield. Something (satellite receiver maybe??) is housed on the windshield directly above where the mirror is mounted and between the two, I could not see a large portion of the field in front of me - I felt truly blindsided.
 
Are they still calling themselves FCA? I thought they were Stellantis now.

Good question. I'll have to double check the letter they sent me when I get home. Thinking back, I feel like it might have said "Stellantis (formerly FCA)" on it.

FWIW, most everybody up here still calls them either Chrysler or FCA.
 
Are they still calling themselves FCA? I thought they were Stellantis now.
Last thing I got from them on my 2015 Cherokee (we're going to issue a recall for repairs on a rear liftgate issue once we figure out a fix for it) was from FCA.
 
Are they still calling themselves FCA? I thought they were Stellantis now.

Good question. I'll have to double check the letter they sent me when I get home. Thinking back, I feel like it might have said "Stellantis (formerly FCA)" on it.

FWIW, most everybody up here still calls them either Chrysler or FCA.

Last thing I got from them on my 2015 Cherokee (we're going to issue a recall for repairs on a rear liftgate issue once we figure out a fix for it) was from FCA.

Upon review, paperwork says "FCA US LLC (formerly Chrysler Group LLC)..." nowhere does it mention Stellantis. Come to think of it, I don't think it even says Stellantis on any of the signs outside their HQ. I'll have to take a closer look next time I drive past.
 
When they were closing the plant (where your Cherokee was made) near me earlier this year, they were referred to as Stellantis. The company is a 50-50 merger of FCA (Fiat Chrysler) and PSA (Citroen and Peugeot, among others). PSA doesn't really sell any of its brands in the US which may be part of why Stellantis rebrand hasn't been as quick or widespread.
 
Are they still calling themselves FCA? I thought they were Stellantis now.

Friday I'm taking my car in to get new brakes. This will be the first brake job and the car has nearly 75,000 miles. I'm not sure if that means the brakes are durable or I'm terribly neglectful.
Depending type of brake pads themself and your driving style; 75k out of a set of brakes is doable. I got 65k out of my last set. They were ceramic and I don't brake hard. I was 1/4 inch from the wear indicator squealing, so I could have gotten more. I personally like doing my own brakes as it doesn't take long; however, labor is the biggest part of the cost. I have a friend that has a mechanic shop and I am able to get the parts at cost. I buy rotors instead of having them turned for convenience and I get good quality ceramic or carbon ceramic pads depending on the application; and I still come out significantly cheaper than a brake job with turned rotors and cheap pads.
 
I am actively looking for a used truck. Being able to search for vehicles online makes it easy to find what I am looking for, which is Ford F-150 with the 2.7 liter ecoboost v6 and preferably the 10 speed transmission. Locally, my options are limited and prices are very inconsistent but now car buying can be done from your home and cars shipped to you from virtual anywhere . Has anyone bought a vehicle that way via vroom or some other web service?
 
I am actively looking for a used truck. Being able to search for vehicles online makes it easy to find what I am looking for, which is Ford F-150 with the 2.7 liter ecoboost v6 and preferably the 10 speed transmission. Locally, my options are limited and prices are very inconsistent but now car buying can be done from your home and cars shipped to you from virtual anywhere . Has anyone bought a vehicle that way via vroom or some other web service?

I haven't but a very good friend of mine did a couple months ago and so did my nephew last year and both had good experiences (I believe they both used Carvana).

When I bought my last Jeep, I considered buying used and looked on Carvana and Vroom (looked at Gladiators, Grand Cherokees, and a few other vehicles) because there was no inventory locally and noticed prices were all over the place, especially for the used Audi and Volvos I was interested in. Ultimately, I ended up buying new from a local dealership but I'd still consider Carvana or Vroom for a used vehicle... It just seems like there are infinitely more choices to choose from. I would sort of like to get an older Land Rover Discovery or LR3 for something I could eventually turn into a trail rig if I found the right deal but I can never seem to find them on those particular online services; maybe those models are just too old for them to deal with.
 
I haven't but a very good friend of mine did a couple months ago and so did my nephew last year and both had good experiences (I believe they both used Carvana).

When I bought my last Jeep, I considered buying used and looked on Carvana and Vroom (looked at Gladiators, Grand Cherokees, and a few other vehicles) because there was no inventory locally and noticed prices were all over the place, especially for the used Audi and Volvos I was interested in. Ultimately, I ended up buying new from a local dealership but I'd still consider Carvana or Vroom for a used vehicle... It just seems like there are infinitely more choices to choose from. I would sort of like to get an older Land Rover Discovery or LR3 for something I could eventually turn into a trail rig if I found the right deal but I can never seem to find them on those particular online services; maybe those models are just too old for them to deal with.
I am still looking locally but for a F150, there are plenty because the annual production is between 1/2 a million to a million units. I just wished dealerships posted the out the door pricing. I did discover a little trick on verifying price. Some big car dealers, like Car Max and the like, give you instant offers on trade-ins; so enter the information for the vehicle that you are looking at. It will give you insight on what they might have gave for it on trade.
 
I'm going to PA to buy this example of the last of its kind - Buick Roadmaster wagon..

1996-buick-roadmaster-estate-wagon-limited


:love: ;)

@RandomPlanner @kms
 
Gorgeous!

I had a friend in high school who drove his parents Roadmaster wagon (probably a '95 or '94) and we all gave him a hard time about it until we actually rode in it and then we all loved it.
I was given use of my parents' 1992 Caprice wagon for my senior year of college (1999-2000) in AA.

One Saturday night 4 of my roommates and I drove it across town to another party once ours ended because we had to also bring our half empty beer keg.

Two of my friends unilaterally called the gunner seat (aka way-back, third-row, etc.)

entrance sup GIF
 
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I haven't but a very good friend of mine did a couple months ago and so did my nephew last year and both had good experiences (I believe they both used Carvana).

When I bought my last Jeep, I considered buying used and looked on Carvana and Vroom (looked at Gladiators, Grand Cherokees, and a few other vehicles) because there was no inventory locally and noticed prices were all over the place, especially for the used Audi and Volvos I was interested in. Ultimately, I ended up buying new from a local dealership but I'd still consider Carvana or Vroom for a used vehicle... It just seems like there are infinitely more choices to choose from. I would sort of like to get an older Land Rover Discovery or LR3 for something I could eventually turn into a trail rig if I found the right deal but I can never seem to find them on those particular online services; maybe those models are just too old for them to deal with.
We were looking last year and I saw some great deals on Carvana. Well below the local prices on a few. We're a smaller market and vehicles tend to run a bit higher, especially used. My only concern was that a few states had filed legal actions or complaints because people weren't getting titles. I read through a few articles and it had some horror stories. I'm assuming most of that has been fixed because I hadn't heard any issues lately. I've had a few friends use them and similar services and tend to be happy with the process.
 
I look at station wagons like scooters. Fun to ride, but you don't want your friends to see you on one.

My car deal for the day, $2700 to completely redo the AC in my Mustang. I guess it's worth it, but damn, that could have been a vintage station wagon or a nice little motorcycle or so many other things I want.
 
I am actively looking for a used truck. Being able to search for vehicles online makes it easy to find what I am looking for, which is Ford F-150 with the 2.7 liter ecoboost v6 and preferably the 10 speed transmission. Locally, my options are limited and prices are very inconsistent but now car buying can be done from your home and cars shipped to you from virtual anywhere . Has anyone bought a vehicle that way via vroom or some other web service?
I haven't purchased from the online vending machines but we've purchased several vehicles sight-unseen from states away:
  • BMW 3-series from 5 hours away; gave down payment and rented a vehicle to drive one-way to pick it up. On arrival, car had unseen road rash (that we'd specifically asked about) and we drove the rental car home. Dealership fixed issues, repainted hood, and delivered it to us for free. Good car, good experience!
  • BMW 3-series from 4 hours away; gave down payment and drove trade-in car down to swap vehicles on my way to a vacation. On arrival, car was great, all went well, drove away happy
  • Ford Focus ST from 800 miles away; paid for car, paid for delivery. Car arrived in great shape; loved it. Good little car.
  • Ferrari Something Something (SO's before I knew him) from 1000 miles away; sent car to local dealership for PPI; success. Paid down payment, owner took to the track for one last hoorah, blew transmission. Owner called and apologized, replaced transmission, shipped car at no additional cost. Good car, no issues.
  • BMW 6-series from 1400 miles away; paid for car, paid for delivery. Car arrived in great shape; loved it.

So yeah, I'm all for finding what you want online, negotiating your best price, and having the puppy shipped to your door directly from the dealership. I would recommend finding the car however, then dealing with the dealership directly.

I look at station wagons like scooters. Fun to ride, but you don't want your friends to see you on one.
:rofl: I have my eye on a BMW 3-series wagon I want to drive as my winter rat. My friends would dig it.
 
We were looking last year and I saw some great deals on Carvana. Well below the local prices on a few. We're a smaller market and vehicles tend to run a bit higher, especially used. My only concern was that a few states had filed legal actions or complaints because people weren't getting titles. I read through a few articles and it had some horror stories. I'm assuming most of that has been fixed because I hadn't heard any issues lately. I've had a few friends use them and similar services and tend to be happy with the process.
We had a Carvana horror story in '18. Our car flunked our mechanic's inspection. He found evidence of an unacknowledged collision repair and I noted a gap in Carfax history. We told them to come get it per their guarantee. It took them 3 weeks to come fetch, and the lady driving the tow truck got stuck in our front yard because she left the driveway. She backed the car off the truck and drove it away, leaving the heavier tow truck stuck.
The tow truck sent to tow the tow truck then got stuck itself leaving two stuck trucks. Another tow truck then came and managed to load one truck, while an extra driver drove the other now not stuck tow truck away.
I asked them to repair the landscape damage but got no answer. Getting our down payment back was even worse.
Carvana is rated as a bottom feeding low end vendor.
 
We had a Carvana horror story in '18. Our car flunked our mechanic's inspection. He found evidence of an unacknowledged collision repair and I noted a gap in Carfax history. We told them to come get it per their guarantee. It took them 3 weeks to come fetch, and the lady driving the tow truck got stuck in our front yard because she left the driveway. She backed the car off the truck and drove it away, leaving the heavier tow truck stuck.
The tow truck sent to tow the tow truck then got stuck itself leaving two stuck trucks. Another tow truck then came and managed to load one truck, while an extra driver drove the other now not stuck tow truck away.
I asked them to repair the landscape damage but got no answer. Getting our down payment back was even worse.
Carvana is rated as a bottom feeding low end vendor.
Last I checked, Carvana can no longer operate in IL because of bad business practices. Used cars are not something I am going to purchase sight unseen.
 
Last I checked, Carvana can no longer operate in IL because of bad business practices. Used cars are not something I am going to purchase sight unseen.
I know they got in trouble but according to the internet they seem to be operating, albeit with a lot of dissatisfaction.
 
I purchased a 2019 F150 with the ecoboost 2.7L V6 over the weekend. Despite being significantly bigger than the Honda Pilot that it replaced, it more fuel effiecent than the pilot. It gets 20/26 mpg and the pilot got 15/20 mpg. I am still getting use to the auto stop/start. It's a tad unsettling having a vehicle cut off when you are at a intersection, especially when you used to drive old cars that did that on their own and wouldn't crank back. I can turn it off when I get in the vehicle but I understand the purpose and intent.
 
I purchased a 2019 F150 with the ecoboost 2.7L V6 over the weekend. Despite being significantly bigger than the Honda Pilot that it replaced, it more fuel effiecent than the pilot. It gets 20/26 mpg and the pilot got 15/20 mpg. I am still getting use to the auto stop/start. It's a tad unsettling having a vehicle cut off when you are at a intersection, especially when you used to drive old cars that did that on their own and wouldn't crank back. I can turn it off when I get in the vehicle but I understand the purpose and intent.
The auto stop start thing along with a host of other annoying features can be turned off with an OBD2 dongle and software.
 
I am still getting use to the auto stop/start. It's a tad unsettling having a vehicle cut off when you are at a intersection, especially when you used to drive old cars that did that on their own and wouldn't crank back. I can turn it off when I get in the vehicle but I understand the purpose and intent.
Turn it of when you get in the vehicle - you're welcome.
 
Ruby the Subie (Outback) just turned 9 and is still running like a champ. Other than oil changes, filters, tires, and new brakes she has been maintenance free.
 
Ruby the Subie (Outback) just turned 9 and is still running like a champ. Other than oil changes, filters, tires, and new brakes she has been maintenance free.
At the risk of bursting your bubble...she should.

Let us know her status when she hits 15+ years.

;)
 
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The auto stop start thing along with a host of other annoying features can be turned off with an OBD2 dongle and software.
Yep. I get the intent of the feature but I hate it; it just doesn't feel safe to me. We always turn that off immediately after purchase.
 
At the risk of bursting your bubble...she should.

Let us know her status when she hits 15+ years.

;)
I bought her brand new in 2014 wanting a car that was going to last a solid 10 years. I think I did ok there! RT said she wanted Ruby if I decide to buy a new Subaru. I told her she was going to be waiting a while :rofl:
 
Yep. I get the intent of the feature but I hate it; it just doesn't feel safe to me. We always turn that off immediately after purchase.
It is just a way for the manufacturers to meet emissions standards. There is ZERO benefit to the vehicle owner, in fact, it causes excess wear and tear on starting components (starter, battery), so it is a net detriment to owners.
 
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